Steve Holden: Holiday breakfasts at Little Chef and Mum's XR3i Cabriolet Christmas present! S3E8

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[00:00:27] let's talk about it. Hello, aha, we're here Jon, cool, right? Yeah. Can you hear me

[00:00:38] now? Yeah. Oh cool, I don't know, I don't know, I'm no worries. Yeah, Jon, meet Steve,

[00:00:44] you're right Steve. Yeah, hi Jon, how are you doing? How are you doing? Yeah good,

[00:00:47] not too bad thanks. Good. Well, um, we'll jump into this. Yeah cool, nice one. Yeah,

[00:00:52] thank you very much for coming onto the show. Ah, you're welcome, thanks for having me on.

[00:00:56] Yeah, hopefully should be, yeah, a bit of fun. Um, for the benefit of the tape we met

[00:01:00] through, um, through Volkswagen, do you've got a, is it a Derby or a Polo? Yeah, it's

[00:01:05] a Derby, 78 Martin Derby, yeah. So, um, yeah, I bought my Polo, my one in 2003 I think and

[00:01:12] you probably were already messing around with them, with those. No, 2004 was mine. Oh,

[00:01:19] okay. So yeah, 20 years this year, yeah, I'm about it. So yeah, we bumped into each other

[00:01:23] various shows over the years. So, uh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, long time. So yeah,

[00:01:29] here we are 20 years later, yeah, talking about um, cars. So, yeah, um, what's your

[00:01:35] earliest car memory? Um, so the first car I remember my parents having was a, a Datson

[00:01:41] cherry. Okay. That was my mum's. So that was my dad got it from my mum's to taking us

[00:01:46] to school and and stuff. Yeah, yeah. So my mum just let us do whatever we wanted in it.

[00:01:51] We had stickers all over the interior panels and stuff. So it was pretty cool. What, what

[00:01:58] colour was it? You know what? I was thinking that this morning, I can't remember. It was

[00:02:01] either yellow or red. I should remember, but I can remember the car, but I can't remember

[00:02:05] the colour. And that was driven by your mum was it? Yeah, it's my mum's. Yeah, I think

[00:02:09] my dad at the time had a van, something like an old Morris, um, say a Morris. Okay. Marina.

[00:02:17] I think it was a Marina. Nice. Sorry, I can't quite remember that. I remember pictures of

[00:02:21] it, but I can't fully remember it. Yeah. Is your dad in a trade of some description

[00:02:25] hence the van or he was a maintenance fitter at an extrusion's plan? Okay. So like a big

[00:02:30] factory, he just like looks after all the machinery there and stuff and so yeah, but he

[00:02:36] was always into DIY and mum and dad built their own house. Oh wow. So probably had the

[00:02:40] van for doing stuff for that. Yeah. Yeah. That's in sunny. You were going to school in it.

[00:02:46] Sorry, sorry, Terry. Yeah, keep up mate. Come on later replaced by the sunny perhaps.

[00:02:52] Yeah, were you in the car on your own or you got siblings? I've got a little brother.

[00:02:56] He's 13 months younger than me. So pretty similar age. Yeah. Okay. So fights in the back

[00:03:02] was there? Oh yeah, plenty of fights. Yeah. What came after the cherry? So after that,

[00:03:09] they had a Renault nine. I think one of you posted a photo of a Renault nine last week.

[00:03:15] Was it a green thing? Was that it? Yeah. I thought it was an 11. So yeah, okay. Yeah, the

[00:03:20] 11 was like the hatchback version. I don't know. It was yours to the 11 then. Yeah, ours was the

[00:03:24] saloon so it was a nine. Yeah, this one I saw locally was a saloon. Yeah. So he ours was a 1.4

[00:03:30] silver one. Okay. So yeah, that was like the first kind of nice car that my parents had when I was

[00:03:37] around and then we had that for a long time. Is there any logic to those numbers that Renault

[00:03:41] were given out at the time? Well, like films or something. They're just naming them. That's

[00:03:45] the first Renault as the sequel. I know they had the Renault Ford in which was a little bit like

[00:03:51] a squared off two CV and then they obviously they brought the Renault five out after that. Yeah. So

[00:03:55] then the nine was a larger part also. Yeah. And then yeah, potentially followed that with the 11

[00:04:01] and then there was the 19 wasn't there, which was sort of a... Yeah, sorry, my first car was a 19.

[00:04:05] Okay. Yeah, yeah, from you know, remember in the Dad's Nine. Yeah. Yeah. I started looking for a car.

[00:04:10] I got a 19. Yeah, I remember a few kids at college had 19 16 valves.

[00:04:15] Nice cars. And that was like, yeah, really cool. Yeah, I made mine look like a 16

[00:04:20] valve but it was only 1.4. Yeah, put a hole in the bonnet for the bonnet vent.

[00:04:26] So yeah, I think obviously the smaller the number, the smaller the car, they went up to what,

[00:04:30] 20, 21? Yeah, 21. I think there's one bigger than that, isn't there? I think there might be a 25.

[00:04:36] So right. Yeah, like really big seven seats. Yeah.

[00:04:40] HDV. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you had that and were you going away on holiday in that as well?

[00:04:47] Yeah, we were. No, I was thinking about that. We had most of our holidays in the UK,

[00:04:52] either North Wales or you know, Down to Dorset or you know, and yeah, we'd always set us off super

[00:04:57] early, you know, of the Doo V in the back. And we'd pretty much always stop at a little chef

[00:05:02] for breakfast. Oh yeah, the little chef. Nice. Yeah, yeah. And you're pretty much always by

[00:05:07] us, pack a top trumps. I wear it at the little chef and then play them when we're on holiday in

[00:05:12] the back of the car. They used to have the top trumps on like a rotating sort of worthy gig sort

[00:05:17] of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He used to love it. Didn't they used to have, was it

[00:05:21] in the little chef or like a happy eater? And then next to it was always another restaurant.

[00:05:25] They were normally kind of in partnership. Maybe there was like a burger king which was a

[00:05:28] takeout and then they had a yeah, maybe a little chef for a sitting or something along those lines.

[00:05:32] I think to recall. Yeah. I can't remember but yeah, it was always a little chef that we stopped at.

[00:05:37] I think there are still a few little chefs around on that. I don't think they've all completely gone.

[00:05:42] Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. Another one's locally to hear when I think happy eater

[00:05:47] went first and then yeah, little chef stuck around a little bit longer. Yeah, it's a shame. Well,

[00:05:52] yeah, I think you know, through the 90s, I don't know if he went on holiday in the UK unless

[00:05:56] he went to a little chef. That's a staple, wasn't it? Yeah, that's it. A stable part of the most

[00:06:01] people's journeys. Yeah, definitely. I guess yeah, they must have been replaced by McDonald's burger

[00:06:05] king and all of those I suppose. Yeah, but they couldn't compete with the prices, you know, because

[00:06:10] it's a proper sit down meal with cutlery and plates and everything. I don't know. Yeah. I seem

[00:06:16] to remember taking my nan to McDonald's for the first time and she was sort of a little bit puzzled

[00:06:20] there wasn't cutlery. Yeah. I think we had to stop somewhere on a trip and it was like, oh, we'll

[00:06:25] have to get this. I don't know what she ordered. How was the cherry on the long journey? Stay,

[00:06:30] was it reliable? To be honest, I don't really remember going on holiday in the cherry. It was more

[00:06:34] than Renault nine. Yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah. I don't think the cherry was that great an example to be

[00:06:40] honest. We all parent, oh, I don't know if you know, were they shopping for kind of second

[00:06:46] hand cars? Were they buying these new or sort of off a four-course? Yeah, mum and dad, like before

[00:06:51] we came along because they built their house. They were always having bangers and then dad got the

[00:06:56] cherry for mum and then the Renault nine was the first sort of half decent second hand car we had.

[00:07:01] But they did have in 1968, I think it was the bought a brand new Volkswagen Beetle. Oh wow. Yeah,

[00:07:07] which I was loving Volkswagen as I thought that was ace. We always bought way before I was around

[00:07:13] and they had it a year and they hated it and got rid of it. So yeah, I don't know where my love of

[00:07:18] the Volkswagen comes from. It's not from them. Yeah, yeah. I guess we'll come to your cars in a

[00:07:23] bit because you've got sort of a few different vehicles and they may remain not sort of tally

[00:07:28] to your other memories. So Renault nine. Do you know what was after that? After that was the

[00:07:34] astro estate which is with the first thing I commented on one of your posts. Oh yeah, yeah.

[00:07:39] Yeah, we had that for a long time. I think dad got that when it was about it was an ex-fleet car

[00:07:43] so I think it was like three years old maybe. Okay. Yeah, we bought that from a dealership in

[00:07:48] Nutzford from a bloat called Barry Cheezman. You can never forget his name. It was a long time ago

[00:07:54] but yeah, Cheezman is good name. So yeah, we had that for years and like you know obviously

[00:08:00] used it for summer holidays and I borrowed it. I used to get down new key quite a bit in the summer

[00:08:05] so every time I went down there I borrowed it and yeah, it's a cool car. We had it for a long time

[00:08:11] and then after that he bought another astro estate and my brother had an astro estate at the same time

[00:08:17] as well. Oh wow. Yeah, we had a few of them. In that photo was there an ex-R3I

[00:08:23] cabinet? Yeah, yeah. Was that a family car too or was that just happened to be? Yeah, that was

[00:08:27] for my mum's. Yeah. Okay. So that was a 90 spec XR3I. Was it a convertible? It was a convertible,

[00:08:33] yeah. Yeah, it was a cool car. We only sold it in the last sort of four years unfortunately.

[00:08:39] Oh wow. Okay. But yeah, my dad got it in my mum in about 98. I want to say 97 98.

[00:08:47] All right. And my mum used it for work. My mum's a nurse and she traveled around to different

[00:08:53] doctors, surgeries and stuff. And yeah, someone scraped down the side of the front wing

[00:08:59] and after that my mum just didn't want to use it so we got put away at the factory where my dad

[00:09:05] worked just kind of in a story and he stayed there until my dad retired. Oh wow. And then

[00:09:11] dad brought it home and then his mum and dad's garage for a bit and then I moved it to my garage.

[00:09:16] We got it back on the road and yeah, unfortunately he decided to get rid because I had enough cars

[00:09:22] and my brother's not interested in cars so yeah, it's a bit of a shame really. Yeah. But yeah,

[00:09:26] it's gone to a good guy who's got a massive collection of cars and he sold them back when they were

[00:09:31] new so it's kind of right-of-place in his car collection. Fantastic. My mum had a Gulf cab

[00:09:36] one Gulf cabaret for a bit when I was sort of yeah, I guess might have even been able to drive

[00:09:41] actually. I remember driving it. So yeah, perhaps I was driving by then but yeah, that was quite

[00:09:45] nice just to pot around but yeah, I always thought we see my two girls whether or not sort of a

[00:09:51] cabaret as a second car would be quite fun. I was kid sat in the back seat, roofed down. Yeah, definitely.

[00:09:57] Yeah, we used to love going out in the ESCO but dad bought it my mum on Christmas.

[00:10:01] Oh, was it a surprise? Yeah, it's a surprise. Yeah, so he hid it in the garage and at the time there was

[00:10:07] no path going to the garage. It was just a grass and I remember pulling in one night and you could see

[00:10:13] the tire tracks leading up to the garage and I was like oh god, I hope Mum doesn't notice that

[00:10:17] but she did and then yes, she was like super surprised. So Christmas morning. Fantastic. And at the time,

[00:10:22] I worked at a pub because like a waiter and Mum and dad give us a lift on Christmas mornings.

[00:10:27] I was working Christmas day at the pub. Yeah, it turned up in this cool XR3 iconverbal disease.

[00:10:33] roofed down or roofed up? Oh, I've got to have the roofed down. It's pretty simple.

[00:10:37] I convertible. You've got the roofed down. I saw someone on the US day roofed down.

[00:10:42] I thought that's Cain isn't it? Yeah, you've got to do it. Seven degrees.

[00:10:47] Yeah. Their toes are on fire from the heater. Yeah, about three degrees. So a waistband up.

[00:10:55] This is shivering. Full scheme, I've got it and everything. Yeah, definitely. I saw

[00:11:00] an alpha and a spider convertible and a beam of mate used to take it in turns driving to work

[00:11:05] and I'd always have to roof down. He's just like moaned. So yeah, he was quite happy when I got rid

[00:11:11] of that and got a goal for it. So the vehicles you've got now Steve, obviously I think you've

[00:11:17] got split bus. I mean, it'd be W split. You've got a land driver. Yeah, you've got the Derby.

[00:11:21] That's it. Are any of those been influenced by kind of cars from your youth?

[00:11:26] The Land Rover. My first car was a Land Rover but me and my dad bought when I was 14.

[00:11:32] Okay. So we built the garage to restore the Land Rover. Yeah. And yeah, it was cool. It was

[00:11:38] just long way base series three, but it needed a lot of work. So the more you dug into it,

[00:11:43] the worse it was and we stripped it down to a chassis, got all the welding done and unfortunately,

[00:11:50] I lost interest and started getting interested in girls and drink. So yeah, unfortunately that never

[00:11:59] got finished and then I sold that Land Rover like quite a long time ago now and I've always had

[00:12:05] a wanting for another one. So yeah, I've got a 69 shot wheelbase two A at the moment.

[00:12:11] Okay. Which I thought again, I thought it was pretty good. I've got it but

[00:12:14] oh no. The more you dig into it is it's getting there. I'm not giving up.

[00:12:18] It's good to hear. So hopefully this summer he'll be back on the road.

[00:12:22] Yeah. But yeah, the Volkswagen's like the split screen, never had them when we were kids and

[00:12:27] I don't know. It's probably from going to campsites in North Wales where you'd stay in a caravan

[00:12:31] and I probably saw them and thought yeah, quite a lot like that. And then I saw a vintage

[00:12:35] game on that 13 years. So yeah, we use it most years for some holidays. We've been

[00:12:41] South of France down to Dorset, Scub Brown Scotland all over in it is cool.

[00:12:46] That's good when it's getting used properly isn't it rather than just sitting there?

[00:12:49] Yeah, definitely. No, when I first bought it, like I joined the split screen forum and I remember

[00:12:54] I don't know if it was me or someone else asked a question about sleeping in it and someone was

[00:12:58] like, oh we don't sleep at all. I was like, what was the point? I'm in a stubborn comfort

[00:13:02] but if you're not going to sleep in it. But yeah, no, it's good to like, yeah, we use it most

[00:13:06] of the time. Yeah, obviously in the line of work that I do it used to joke that some people just

[00:13:10] buy them to match their t-shirt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Rather than actually using them as intended or

[00:13:17] kind of have any sort of passion for them. Yeah, that's it. Do you recall kind of music from road

[00:13:22] trips and stuff as a kid any vehicles to set stuck in them or? Yeah, my mum always had a Beatles

[00:13:28] cassette in her cars so yeah, grew up listening to the Beatles and my dad was the total opposite

[00:13:33] and he'd have classic FM on. So yeah, he'd have a cigar in classic FM. He'd smoke in the car

[00:13:42] would he? Not very often to be honest but yeah, he did like the odd cigar. Yeah. Listen to classical

[00:13:47] music. Yes. Very eloquent. Yeah, not like me. Smoked a few passive cigars in my time,

[00:13:53] seeing myself. Yeah, probably more than a shit or done. That's for sure. It's not something to

[00:14:01] grow. Yeah. Come out all right. Boosted it if anything. Well, yeah, my brother was six

[00:14:09] four fours so yeah, the most famous me. Yeah, yeah, must be something in that nicotine. Yeah,

[00:14:16] goodness. Yeah, so also I've just just I made a couple of notes just to see if there's anything.

[00:14:22] Yeah, my dad and MGB when he was younger. Okay. But he sold that when he was doing the house up.

[00:14:26] I think it was just kind of in the way and some bloke knocked on one day and I think he got 50 quid

[00:14:31] for it. Oh no. And he always regrets selling it unfortunately. Yeah, roadster or coat?

[00:14:36] Yeah, sorry, a roadster. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, a wire wheels. That's what he told us. Yeah, so

[00:14:42] nice. Yeah, no, so it's only cool. Doesn't have any photos of it unfortunately. So he's pretty

[00:14:47] hands-on then is he, your dad? Oh yeah. He put a house in restored a land Rover. Yeah,

[00:14:51] yeah, super hands-on. So like every time I wanted to lower a car or something with tickets,

[00:14:55] the factory where he worked because there was always a big workshop there with tools and yeah,

[00:15:01] he'd help know that's super hands-on. Yeah, he can pretty much do anything like loads of amates,

[00:15:05] you know, if they need something doing when we were younger, you know, he'll bring it round

[00:15:09] us and dad would help start it out so yeah, he's good. He knows what he's doing. Did he teach you to

[00:15:14] drive as well? He did, yes in in the astra. Okay. Yeah, so there was like a dead end road in like

[00:15:20] the village near where we lived. So we'd just go up there. I think when I was 16, we did that. Yeah,

[00:15:26] but yeah, the first thing that I learned to drive on was a dump truck. So like, probably when I was about

[00:15:32] an out 12, 13, we had a dump truck in the garden because like, you know, the house was finished

[00:15:38] but the garden never seems to get finished for a while. Yeah. And yeah, so you see it's

[00:15:43] right around on this dump truck. This is pretty cool. Enough room in the garden to get a kind of a

[00:15:49] decent lap in or yeah, it wasn't huge. But yeah, you could you could drive it round easily. You didn't

[00:15:55] have to do sort of often. I know you're 10. No, no, nothing like that. But yeah, you could drive it

[00:16:01] round. Yeah, we used it. My dad because it was a dumper. We'd sort of book it off the front. My dad made

[00:16:07] an a frame because we made like a big wall out of the back with like massive stone blocks. So

[00:16:14] we had the a frame and I drive the dumper, dad had beyond the pull lifts, lift the blocks up

[00:16:19] and then I drive into position and lower them. So yeah, they were big blocks, you know, like sort of

[00:16:25] you know, meter wide sort of thing maybe. Wow. Yeah. So that was my introduction to driving.

[00:16:31] Are they driven pretty similar to a car? Yeah, yeah. They're very pedal. Yeah, three pedals

[00:16:35] are saying. Yeah, it was a three-speed gearbox. Obviously super slow, you know. Yeah, it's a diesel

[00:16:42] like a handle to start it carrying a bit of weight, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah, the dancers.

[00:16:48] But you could wheel spin it if you kind of put it in first gear,

[00:16:51] he thought on the clutch just keep revving it and then dump the clutch it just it would wheel spin.

[00:16:57] So yeah, that was quite cool. So the sort of thing you'd let your friends have a guy

[00:17:03] with they come around the weekend and you don't have a guy or was it? Oh, I don't know if they did

[00:17:07] actually. I remember my brother nearly crashing it, well he did crash it and he would have been

[00:17:12] on the main road if he wasn't for hitting a tree. So yeah, so it was good fun. Now into school with

[00:17:23] a kid in the out of motorbike and he used to sort of ride around the back garden is back garden

[00:17:27] wasn't huge it was kind of like semi detached house or whatever. But yeah, he used to kind of

[00:17:32] whiz round back garden was like 50 CC bike. Yeah, I remember I think it must have been the

[00:17:38] Datsun when we had all the cars. I remember sitting in that because I was sat on the dry for a while

[00:17:42] and just you know pretending to drive and stuff this is like when we're pretty young

[00:17:45] I'm like me said come round and we're sitting there. So yeah, yeah. Do you recall any other kind of

[00:17:50] vehicles from like neighbors and stuff like that stuff of interest? Yeah over the road like

[00:17:55] because Mum and Dad lived on a main road so we didn't really have a neighbor research but over

[00:18:00] the road there was a farm and a guy who lived a bit further down he kept his classic cars in there.

[00:18:06] Okay, so he had a Porsche 356. I love it. And a big old Bentley I'm not sure like a sort of 50s

[00:18:15] one I'm not sure what model it was but that was pretty cool and I'm good off to get this in

[00:18:21] one of the best mates. Is that a decision BX? You've been itching for that one.

[00:18:31] Oh thanks. I want to start the year that I see. Yeah so thanks.

[00:18:36] Yeah, no it's a cool car. I remember like when we finished junior school like we had to do a

[00:18:42] project on something and I wrote about the fact you and my dad worked and he wrote about his

[00:18:47] that's it should be X. Hey you still in touch with him it sounds like yeah we should get him on.

[00:18:53] Yeah, he lives in Canada now actually. Okay, yeah I'm so about yeah friends with him on the

[00:18:58] like Facebook and Instagram and stuff so yeah. Yeah I'd love to read the project.

[00:19:02] Yeah, we'll do Matt's a real he's a clever guy and he did like a whole thing on the

[00:19:08] you know the it's not air suspension is it what is it is it hydraulic? Is it hydrogen?

[00:19:12] Hydro, natto? Yeah, come on man. There's something like that he's called isn't it?

[00:19:16] It's fluid isn't it I think. That's right yeah yeah. Oh hydraulic. I don't think it's just hydraulic

[00:19:20] I think it is it's got a certain name but I can't remember I think it is hydraulic but he has to

[00:19:24] just have a name. I hope it won't be too long till I say one this year obviously sort of late last

[00:19:29] year didn't I that nice black one. Yeah, maybe sort of fell over when I walked around the corner

[00:19:34] which is literally there like if it shocks in that time wall. It's funny isn't it at the time

[00:19:39] it wasn't that keen on them but now I think they look quite cool. Yeah but in fact yeah thinking

[00:19:45] about it my cousin he had a BXGTI at one point nice I remember seeing it once he was a bit older

[00:19:50] than me he's about 10 years older than me so he must have had it when he was in his 20s so I would

[00:19:54] have been a teenager. Well, when you got one pound so that's the puts are indifference

[00:20:00] there's some vehicles which you kind of walk past and spot and you don't sort of consider them

[00:20:05] to be old yeah there was a type to your camper van I posted the other day opposite that on the road

[00:20:10] is a murk on an em plate it's like a 95e class or something like that. Yeah, but nothing in me

[00:20:16] wanting me to take a picture of that it just kind of looked too refined and too yeah yeah

[00:20:21] it must have been just ahead of its time it's kind of aged very well it doesn't look out of place

[00:20:25] yeah whereas you see yeah BX where I'll give it to say or whatever and just doesn't blend in does

[00:20:31] it the Jag XJR part round the corner on a 98R oh yeah and again that sort of our kind of childhood

[00:20:38] era but it just sort of blends in because it's rounded and everything yeah that's it this car's

[00:20:43] like that sort of age still look quite modern whereas like you know from the 80s earlier they did

[00:20:48] little up very old I saw I'm speaking of this mark one focus early on actually I think it's on

[00:20:53] a no three hmm so I mean 20 year old car now isn't it also 21 years well there um but yeah it just

[00:20:59] didn't turn your head or anything it kind of just blends in yeah well my old neighbour she's still got

[00:21:04] I think her season no three player no two her son bought it new and then she had it and yeah

[00:21:09] still in the garage and I live round the corner now it's not so far and I still see it and yeah

[00:21:14] she still uses it not every day but it's her daily car and it's mint it's immaculate it's it is

[00:21:20] a yeah you just don't see mark one focuses anymore do you know there must be pretty stril things

[00:21:26] I'd say those those marked ones really still plenty of them knocking around yeah I think if they're

[00:21:30] looked after they are pretty good cars yeah but I guess that's probably the sort of the start

[00:21:35] of the not built to last year we've said before sort of late 90s early noughties was kind of the

[00:21:41] yeah almost like the pinnacle that mark four goal fear for example where you bought one and actually

[00:21:46] you could still be using it comfortably today because everything works yeah whereas kind of

[00:21:52] after that kind of became disposable car culture like it's a yeah it's a product you buy it for 10

[00:21:57] years you buy like 15 years you pay X amount a month and then when it's done you

[00:22:02] fry it away yeah well my daily is a 24 year old laundry over free lunder okay yeah and it's not the

[00:22:09] best car but I've had it five years and it's never let me down everyone knocks them you know keep

[00:22:15] on top of like the preventative maintenance and yeah it's been a good daily I paid eight and

[00:22:21] not quit for it so you know you've probably gone up yeah yeah stocks and shares yeah yeah

[00:22:31] now you ride that wave long enough though that's what happens isn't it they drop me so yeah well I see

[00:22:35] yeah yeah yeah I don't think it's ever going to be worth the trust amount but it's three door or

[00:22:41] five door a three door yeah so you can set the roof off the back I was doing some stuff for work

[00:22:45] the other day writing about them and so you see the value that that early three door discoveries

[00:22:51] now sort of picking up people want three door rain drivers potentially the three door three lander will

[00:22:57] yeah I guess people want three door golf GTIs three door not one escorts mark two escorts yeah

[00:23:03] it could be onto something yeah it's got the brova diesel in it the L series by most of

[00:23:09] the case series other than the the diesels they were the L series for a few years and then it moved

[00:23:13] on to the BMW engine so yeah the L series is quite a rare old thing yeah and the great it's just

[00:23:20] you know it's never not started it's it's a good engine really it's quite agricultural but it's

[00:23:26] good any interesting smells stay from any of these previous cars yeah my cars don't smell of

[00:23:33] carrot like Andy's Porsche my car doesn't smell of carrots I've made a way to go that front but

[00:23:39] I've got about that I listen to it this morning after maybe love no not really probably

[00:23:46] scar smoke really yeah do you recall the sale of any of the vehicles was that kind of a driveway

[00:23:53] sale or did they keep the cars till they got scrapped or yeah pretty much most things just got

[00:23:58] kept until the month scrap yard yeah okay we kept stuff for quite a long time but the only thing

[00:24:02] we sold was the X offrey I yeah yeah was the card in a Barry Chaseman wasn't it yeah was he like

[00:24:09] a friend of the family was he just like a local sort of no no it was just like an ex fleet

[00:24:13] disposal place in not spread okay and I just remember his name because it was such a good name

[00:24:19] we bought a a Citroen AX from a place called Sisi can't remember the guy's first name and we went

[00:24:25] out for this test drive 1.4 diesel Citroen AX blue five-d� and yeah we did this sort of loop

[00:24:31] and the guy went without Phil Collins house while we were driving along that was obviously the

[00:24:39] clincher we bought the car excellent obviously his his pattern love pointing that out we could have

[00:24:46] just made it up completely complete falsehood yeah it's probably thinking early on in the journey

[00:24:50] one who should I used to day or he's very good I'll use that yesterday yeah he's Phil Collins today

[00:24:56] yeah yeah no thinking of stuff about saying what that being handy I got given a Rover 214 when

[00:25:02] it was about 20 and with a blown engine and gave him a dad and my dad took the engine out putting

[00:25:07] new engine in it and he ran around in that well my mum used that so dad had the astray and

[00:25:12] mum used this Rover that my dad put the engine in we had it for about 10 years fantastic for

[00:25:16] the best thing on the car by the time we got rid of it it's be seriously handy your dad then

[00:25:20] Steve is doing engine changes and yeah is he still involved now in any sort of way

[00:25:26] not really no he's got a C3 Picasso now okay yeah Citroen he's only second one of them so no he

[00:25:35] doesn't really do that much anymore then these old one I service that for him right yeah but you know

[00:25:40] he likes most father's days we normally go out for a drive like in one of my cars and we'll

[00:25:45] go walk like to books and do they some nice routes up there and then see yeah he likes going out

[00:25:51] for a drive yeah nice do you think he had kind of a vehicle he aspired to I guess you mentioned the

[00:25:56] MG sort of a bit guy did he let that guy yeah that's it that's probably it really he moved house

[00:26:02] a couple of years ago and he was looking to get in like a classic car to knock about with

[00:26:06] and there's a bit of a project and we went to look at like a 1930s Morris okay and he nearly bought

[00:26:12] it but in the end he decided against it because he's he's 82 now my mum does most of your

[00:26:18] driving really so yeah it's a bit of a shame really because he would have been quite cool to

[00:26:21] have this little Morris like we test drove it and he looked pretty cool driving it yeah but yeah

[00:26:26] I think the car you regret getting rid of is the MGB yeah sounds like it was a cool car maybe you need

[00:26:31] to hide one in the garage next Christmas for him yeah that's it that is a very good idea yeah

[00:26:37] just don't leave any tire tracks on that grass yeah yeah my father in law is an MGB actually

[00:26:42] they might just borrow that for a bit set that round I think you'll be paying a bit more than 50

[00:26:47] quid won't you for yeah definitely have you heard the episode John talks about his dad's car

[00:26:54] no I've not heard that one so yeah quick synopsis yeah basically John and his brother surprised

[00:26:59] their dad with the Mercedes oh cool yeah I mean this is like 15 odd years ago now but

[00:27:05] I'll be paying about a grand for it but I see it was like a better condition of the one that you're

[00:27:09] already owned so oh that's really cool yeah there's a bit of a funny story in that when we gave him

[00:27:14] the key I think he thought we were given the key for like mobility scooters or something like that

[00:27:20] and it was a bit of a struggle for him to get down the stairs to see the car and stuff but yeah

[00:27:23] obviously once he clocked it well we told him and stuff oh that's brilliant yeah no it's good

[00:27:28] so nice that's easy good little thing to do just to sort of lift spirits as much you could say

[00:27:33] yeah oh no that's awesome that's really cool yeah no maybe I don't think I'll be able to afford

[00:27:38] to buy him an MGB but yeah we could maybe go out for a spinning one there's no pressure Steven

[00:27:43] yeah he's got a lot of eye though you get him a mark if you want yeah he quite likes the

[00:27:50] free lander actually so might give him a lot just see if you can get him a front panel and a bumper

[00:27:55] that's all you'll be able to see in the garage yeah just lift it up a little bit just the illusion of

[00:28:00] yeah that's good idea just rest a couple of wheels up against the front of the door and just lift

[00:28:05] the garage out it was a slightly yeah yeah the door stuck again on there

[00:28:11] rather we should get a post on yeah I could do a draw in the one actually yeah

[00:28:16] yeah oh fantastic well thank you yeah thank you very much coming on and

[00:28:20] sharing your stories with us oh yeah cool thank you for having me yeah thanks

[00:28:25] you've been good fun oh cheers guys nice to meet you awesome nice BX drop there and

[00:28:30] to kick off with yeah yeah get our BX fix that was nice little uh starts the year when there's

[00:28:36] as always good to hear daddy likes to get his hands oily and yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[00:28:41] influence on Steve yeah some good cars in there straight into it with the the Datson cherry

[00:28:46] yeah I think that's another one I think my Nana had so many cars sure she had a cherry

[00:28:51] coop silver one I think yeah my cousin had for his first car it was I don't think it was the cherry

[00:28:55] but it was like a maybe even gone into Toyota by this point but it was a cream color sort of saloon

[00:29:01] which we as very proud of at the time I guess it was like a proper first car banana you know

[00:29:06] costillatory nothing but that's one of my oldest memories I think of just being sort of

[00:29:10] scooty around in that in the back with no seat belts or anything like that yeah yeah absolutely

[00:29:15] yes it's a really good story nice to him too yeah he's been following the podcast for a while

[00:29:20] he sent us a few pictures which we'll share and yeah it's always nice to get someone on his

[00:29:24] net that's showing an interest yeah absolutely I think that's I think we noticed we're recording

[00:29:29] this while early January so it will probably go out late February March baby we just seem to have

[00:29:34] sort of shifted a gears sort of picked up a little bit which is really cool yes good um we need

[00:29:39] to do a thanks so last week Sam's episode went out and it's Sam from Southern cars who's dubbed

[00:29:44] as a car dealer actually very kindly bought us quite a few coffees yeah thanks Sam or in fact

[00:29:48] signed up for our kind of membership if you like for the year so um yeah that's really going to help

[00:29:53] us kind of push us towards getting some gear to get on the road so definitely we're very grateful

[00:29:57] yeah okay cool we'll wrap it up yeah good stuff cheers John cheers Ryle with credits

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