Sheridan 'We Blog Any Car' : Dad was a mechanic. Homework at a main dealer workshop. Vauxhall Viva, Audi 100, Cavalier, Mk1 Golf, Fiat 131 S4E10

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to my Dads Car, enjoy!

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to My Dads Car, a podcast discussing our personal relationship with automotive nostalgia.

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[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello!

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, alright.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We're back again.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi, remarkable.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: A bit of an interesting turn of events this morning.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we had to go over to Lewisham.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So going up the A2 and on the opposite side, there's like a broken down...

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the... It's an old Datsun coupé.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it a 350Z or?

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or 260 or something like that.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Something like that.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So 1970s?

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 70s one.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I went past it, was broken down.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Couldn't see any driver near it or anything.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And then a couple of hours later it's coming back and it was still there.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: An RAC van was just loading it on.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Just sort of getting up near it and my wife goes, I think that's Ian Wright.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, broken down?

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure it was Mr. Wright Wright Wright.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you looked on his social media just to see whether it was...

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I did have a quick look on his story and stuff but I couldn't see anything.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm fairly sure it was him.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: The clothing gave it away.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He had his usual sort of headwear on.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I don't know if there's any way of finding out.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we'll hear about it.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I listened to a couple of his podcasts so he might have been late for work

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: wherever he was going today.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I know his roots are in sort of broccoli southeast

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: but I don't know if he ever comes back here.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so...

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You're getting closer?

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I was very warm.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Very warm.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Well hopefully, for his sake, nothing too serious.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Indeed.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, how are you doing?

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm good, I'm good.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, welcome along Sheridan, thanks for joining us.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: You're all right, Sheridan. How's it going?

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good. I'm good, John. How are you doing? You okay?

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm all right. Yeah, not too bad. Not too bad.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Good, mate. Good one.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Where are you based, Sheridan?

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Cotswos.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Nice.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like it.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a nice part of the world.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It's such a good driving road here to be fair.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you guys been up at this side of the country?

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Not a lot to be fair.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I've done a little bit up there but not kind of sort of family trips

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_05]: and work trips rather than sort of driving holidays.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been to Aethe Shem a few times, that's quite close isn't it?

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes, yes.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not too far away.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: 846 once again, that can be a good one.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I really like it up there actually.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_03]: My wife's great art used to live up there.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So we used to visit now and again.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_03]: She passed away last year actually so those trips have come to an end sadly.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But no, it's a nice neck of the woods.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of, it's almost like Motor City as in the Midlands and what have you.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's some real good hideaway cars and things out there.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's yeah, I like it.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a Bristolian born in Brett.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Moved up like so.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, quieter life let's just say.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: From the city.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_05]: What's your day job?

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get into business in a minute.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_05]: What do you do as a day job or is your blog a day job?

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no that's, that's, do I say that's the plan?

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But maybe one day who knows who knows.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, so basically it's well now because COVID everything else as a wreck.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Now I basically deliver parts which is a great way to find some hide.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I just have another car and things need all the way.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It's perfect when you walk in and go what's that?

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Nice.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you start talking and what have you.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a good, it's a good opener.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just say into conversations and cars.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: My whole life has just been cars basically.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I was flicking through your feed earlier.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And like you're a machine, the amount of kind of reels and stuff you're putting out.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, this is just crazy.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Look, we'll go to a show and get some little clips.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, you've just kind of done an intro on a talk around on every car,

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_05]: but almost with like a Haynes manual next to you or like the dealers brochure.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And you're massively knowledgeable or very well read or.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm none basically none.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I it's the reason why I started the blog at the end of the day, started it 2015.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Surely do I say because I didn't agree with what we know or the journalists were saying,

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_04]: part of it is, but also it's something that I enjoyed.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, parts great car sales great,

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: but I actually enjoyed talking to people and finding out exactly what they want.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the key for me.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And also I like to explore and see different vehicles.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you can kind of get a, I don't know, honest opinion sounds wrong,

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_04]: but you can you can see the weaknesses, the strengths and weaknesses in everything.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And I like that because, you know, it's better to have an overall view of everything

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_04]: rather than just one product or one manufacturer if you're similar to me.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But that is something that's just stemmed way back in my childhood to be quite frank.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's just just one of those things that we'll explore it.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So we're joined by Sheridan from We Blog Any Car.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_05]: We've met somewhere on Instagram.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure whether we reached out to you or you reached out to us.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember, but we've sort of had a back and forth

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and thought actually a big good kind of opportunity to have a Nata

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and find out a bit more about what got you into it.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, what's your earliest car memory?

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So my father's mechanic was the TARD mechanic.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He was always in the trade.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And at the time when I was a little kid back in the early 80s,

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I suppose he was at VW and Audi as a mechanic.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But his friends used to drive Audi 105 Senators VW Passat.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Now my dad had a 1976 Vauxhall Viva in metallic bright green.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't like it.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I did like it until these other cars come around.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you would mess around with them and fix them up and everything else

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and then go out on a test drive and I'll be there.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was a case of like, wow, this is completely different to a Vauxhall Viva.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And those were my earliest car memories because you imagine driving around in a Vauxhall Viva

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: that was what I thought was default as cars as such.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And then when you get these German products arriving where the doors shut with a

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: like a Mark 1 Golf, I remember when you close the doors, the air pressure, which it is.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_04]: If you guys have experienced that, you know, it was solid compared to the poor Vauxhall Viva.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But don't get me wrong. I'm a Vauxhall Viva fan.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_04]: If I could buy it, I would buy one now because I think it's just cool.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But back then I wasn't into it at all.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So those were my earliest car memories and then going to primary school.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I used to walk at about 15 minutes walk to primary school with my mother.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was one of the guys, I don't know what he did, but he used to have a Lotus Esprit turbo.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, cool.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And as you can imagine, cold as sack, you know, middle class road is what I lived in.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_04]: You had your, I don't know, marinas, Allegro's, whatever, your Cavaliers,

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen your Viva's and then you walk up the road around the corner

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and there's a Lotus part there in blue.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Someone's landed a spaceship on your front garden.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. So it's that kind of, huh? Okay.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, a little bit further up there was a chap had a Fiat 131 mid-feroni in orange with a black vinyl roof.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's things like that that was kind of that opened my eyes.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Plus my brother is seven years older than I am.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So obviously he was trailing, you know, going through car magazines and things like that.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But those would be my first kind of supposed to be like an opening to different cars, different shapes,

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_04]: different sounds, all of that.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And then it's just, yeah, it's carried on from there.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: But that would be my first earliest child memories as such.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Did your dad bring his job home with him, Sheridan?

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Was it sort of spanners out on the drive quite consistently?

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I suppose in that time it would have been because I remember that he would go to Milton Keynes

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: where VW their headquarters and what have you on courses.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And he would bring, do you guys remember the VW Derby?

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like a polo with a boot.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Polo Saloon.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So one of those, Mark 1 in yellow.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember I think about Hounds Tooth Golf.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just once again, it was worlds away.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It felt so quick and so solid and so kind of, you know, it'd take me and my brother right?

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And it'd be like, wow, this is different, you know, and the seats were hard compared to the Viva seats.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, from time to time he would do that or he would unlock a Saturday if he had to do something,

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, finish off a job or pick up tools or something.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: He would take us into the time it was called Remricks if you know Bristol, well, it was off of Victoria Street.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So it was a garage that was on multi-storey, multi floors.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And then a sense of it.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it had a spiral ramp that went up to the top to the roof,

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_04]: right up the counter, which is the part of their cars and obviously used to put the new cars out there as well.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was like, we never used to get out.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So we were just in the car and we'd just like look around and yeah, there were Beatles,

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_04]: the original Beatles as such, but yeah, there would be Folos and Audi coupes and things.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Once again, world away of what me and my brother were used to with the Vauxhall Viva.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_04]: But to be fair, that Viva never let him down.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you guys do know the Vauxhall Viva?

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So we're talking HC.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've never had one.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I know of them.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: His was a special.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So it was metallic bright green with a black vinyl roof.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And it had electric aerial.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh wow.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That was the party piece.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So you'd be driving down the road and go, Dad, turn the radio, turn the radio on,

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_04]: press the button and you go,

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: like that.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh yeah, the electric aerial never got a fashion in my book to be fair.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it's things like that.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And it wasn't quick.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And we go down to Western Supermere, like a Bank Holiday Monday lesson.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember one time there was an original Mazda RX7.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: OK.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So this is probably like an 85, 86 or whatever.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember, you know, leaning over the passenger seat to Dad,

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I said, but you can't catch that dad, can you?

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Dad's like, you want a bet?

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Drops it down into third gear.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: What have you?

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And this RX7 just disappeared.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, I look back at that now and think, that was me.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd be like, I'm gutted.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm getting rid of this.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Do the other way.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It'd be kind of like, or actually, I think we'll have more sense to not bother

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: actually chasing Japanese sports cars to be quite frank.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, the A370 or whatever.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Back then, you know, it's one of those kind of things.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it's fun memories.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: As I said before, at the time, I didn't really respect it.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But looking back on it now, I would love to, you know, drive around in it.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just say, for me, I think, I don't know where you guys found this,

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_04]: but I think I was at an era kind of time when I was growing up,

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_04]: where things changed so much car wise compared to what I think now.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So like I said before, you have Cortina's, Escorts,

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_04]: and then all of a sudden the Mark II Audi 100 will arrive, you know,

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: at the time most aerodynamic car and all this kind of stuff.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And then, you know, you have like the Astra Mark II arrived.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: It was all kind of egg shaped and all.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. Sierra was another one, wasn't it?

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. The Sierra as well.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But me being me and my father, initially VW and Audi,

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: then he went across to Vauxhall where he spent all his time at Vauxhall dealership to be retired.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I was always a Vauxhall man.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So the blew over others like, no, that's just a Cortina underneath with a different body type of things.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But looking back by CS Sierra now, I'm like, wow, lovely.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just one of those things you grew up, I suppose, at the end of the day.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know better.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, those would be, I suppose, my first memories.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's 1983.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_04]: My father brought from work a orange Volkswagen Golf brochure.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, yeah.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And towards the rear that had a Mars red Mark I GTI and that I kind of stuck on my wall.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was my car.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Never got one.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Unfortunately, it's never too late, I suppose.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, so that would be like my brother had 928 posters on his wall.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But I had a Mark I Golf GTI.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I just love that for the fact it had a black door mirror that was plastic stuff like that

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and a chin spoiler.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, those were the era for me.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So if you take us in the Vivo, you had the electric aerial.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_05]: What was playing on the radio?

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Did he have cassettes or was it just radio or?

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So my uncle used to work for Pioneer.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if it's maybe a West Indian thing.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So music speakers and sound systems come on, you know, forget the cars.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you've got a good system even back in those days.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So you have a Pioneer stereo and that was kind of like, oh yeah, you know, a nice Pioneer

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: tape player in black.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So kind of to a generalization.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know my parents went by this and they love country music.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So Johnny Cash.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember Johnny Cash used to play Johnny Cash quite a bit.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: If you ever the song one piece at a time.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Not sure.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I'll look it up.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Look it up.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to sing it, but you should Google it because basically he works at a car factory.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's one piece at a time and basically what he's talking about is stealing one piece

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: of a car and building it up himself, which is just like that's brilliant.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not saying to do that.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyone who's listening.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to get away with that.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: The job of a lifetime now and the amount of parts that go into a beyond the production

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_03]: line.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: 96 guys, he's been here forever.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how I just got visions of kind of trying to walk out with a front subframe

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and like, you know, even in the evening.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, yeah, how are you going to do that?

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you going with that bonnet?

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Just kind of walking away with it.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it's just one of those kind of things.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously him being a mechanic, punching Western and is that about all feeling really slightly

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: embarrassed?

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, my dad coming home from work playing something like Boney M or going to Barry Island

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: with Rolls Royce and stuff like that being played.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But once again, all that stuff now that I've downloaded that I think is brilliant.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But at the time I didn't appreciate, you know, I didn't appreciate like going to

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Barry Island.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I think there's something.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: No, it was pork quarry.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We've never been there before and my dad was driving.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's those kind of times where you he would always do with checks before we left,

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: which I don't know if that, no, it didn't restore confidence.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know what I mean?

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You just kind of think it don't deal with things.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, take off the expansion tank and you can hear like, well, it's kind of

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking like, OK, and you know, I'm getting ready and he's messing around

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_04]: doing whatever he's doing.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: A piece of mine checks aren't they really in a way?

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I suppose so.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_04]: When I'm like it, you know, I leave the house and then I drive down the bottom of

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_04]: the road and I'm like, off machine.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, it's one of those.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But I remember him driving and it's summertime, you know, six weeks holiday

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and what have you and we're driving along and me and my brother and my mum

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and we get to the seaside.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's probably two hour drive hour and a half or what have you.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: No air conditioning.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Then how you know how we coped the rear windows used to go down like halfway,

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_04]: wasn't it?

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, stop jumping out.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But I remember when we arrived in the parked up having he got out and his

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: back was just stoked with sweat.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He just like, wow, just not that same way anymore.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember him doing that.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, now you just Google Maps off you go and you got Aircon or

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: what I mean to me all the trips seemed a lot shorter than what they do now.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But just one of those things, you know, how do you entertain?

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, my brother just to sit in the back of the car and just look at other cars.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That was driving mum was probably just sick and tired here.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about cars or what have you.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And yes, I remember brother just looking at cars that were going past on the road

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_04]: and what have you and because of a lot of different shapes and all that.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, the seven bridge was like, wow, look at this.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, it's like our golden gate, you know, it's like going

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: across that and then looking down and going that waters round.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: When it's when the tides in that is, you know, you go across into into Wales.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, those were, you know, like looking back, there's a good memories

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and playing the 2P machine and all that kind of stuff at Barry Island.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, to be fair, I went back there.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I think about a year and a year ago for the fun of it.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And everything seems so much smaller.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I assume I've grown.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, you look around at the rides and everything.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, yeah, I remember this, but it just seems smaller.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it's probably got a bit of a cult.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it must have that tourist attraction thing now, isn't it?

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously after what's gone on there. Yeah.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it has. It has. Yeah.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure they definitely they definitely put it on the map.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know the mean words?

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I won't say that we found it because we didn't find it.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But definitely now it's got like a coolness to it

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: because of, you know, what's on TV and everything else.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, that is cool.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So after the V-Bill, it went and worked with Voxel.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_05]: What did you say he went for?

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he went to read a Voxel.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So that'd be like mid 80s.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's always because I asked him that question.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, dad, why Voxel?

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You're always with Voxel.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was just like, because back in Barbados,

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: it was either Voxel or Ford.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Suppose it was like my little Liverpool, isn't it?

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. So yeah.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So it was Voxel or Ford.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He said they were cheap.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And when you come over here, once again, they were cheap.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But you could also just go in the scrap yard and get whatever you needed.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was the reason why he stuck with Voxel.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So after the green Viva with the vinyl, Viva S,

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_04]: which apparently was a special that they did it in Luton.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's not much information on it, which is just a shame anyway.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: He then was going through the phase of what car to get next.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And obviously, you know, you know,

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_04]: me and my brother probably like, yeah,

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_04]: get a BMW 3 Series or whatever, but no, no, it's going to be, you know,

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_04]: a Voxel.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Get an Audi 100 like everybody else because the sound of a five cylinder engine

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_04]: to a little kid like myself was just like, wow, compared to the,

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, Talbot horizons that were parked in the street.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just like that.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_04]: The sewing machines.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. That sounded a five cylinder engine.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you're watching Grandstand with the RSC rally near the quadrant

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_04]: or it was just like, wow, get an Audi, dad, get an Audi.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So I remember he came home with a J type.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So Mark two Voxel cabalera.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Hatchback in beige.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Was he getting them as company cars or was he buying it?

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That could be his car to buy.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So he would have got that from the sales department and basically said,

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: could I just, I don't know, sit fits in the garage or does,

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, the wife like it type of thing.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, maybe he came home on a Saturday with that.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And me and my brother were just like, uh-huh.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: See what I mean?

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Cause that's just like, yeah.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But to give it its due, I remember driving,

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: well, I remember him driving it and we're in the back and it was an

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_04]: auto.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And it felt so fast.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So like noisy fast, but also felt million miles from the Voxel

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Cabalera because I remember my mum like,

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_04]: slow down, how do you know what you're doing?

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like, and I don't know how fast that he probably

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_04]: wasn't to us.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It felt fast, but it probably really wasn't, you know, that fast,

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: but it was just worlds away.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, so then it was the case.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm right looking for another car and what have you.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he turned up with a Mark two Voxel Cabalera saloon.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_04]: In Brown, which for beige interior and that Cabalera once again,

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_04]: another car that if me and my brother could find that now,

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_04]: actually I can't speak for him.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_04]: That's wrong for me to speak for him.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: The Viva definitely he would.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about the Cabalera, but I would.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So this would be when.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I suppose it was no just before it's going to secondary school,

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_04]: give him his juice.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So you had the Mark two Cabalera and then I think it was 1985 or

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_04]: not, it's 60 then face lifted it and they put like a light bar

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_04]: on the back of it.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And a slightly bigger grill and they changed the interior

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: and the steering wheel and what have you.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So my dad's was the version before that which didn't have

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_04]: the light bar, but hey, working at Voxel and all that.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: No problem is it?

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So he got the wheel trims.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He changed the front grill and he changed the rear lights because

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_04]: he got a light bar and had the black lines that went along

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_04]: the lights as well.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So he basically made his look like a version two of the Mark

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_04]: two Cabalera, but it was brown.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So my mum was working nights.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, so it was like 10 30 at night.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'd come in from school.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm mostly going to work at six o'clock.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So then my dad had a word with the garage.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It might have been there like as fine he can come or what have

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_04]: you because obviously, you know, childcare and everything else.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So he would pick me up and they were working late.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So those days when I suppose garages are really busy.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's not working like eight o'clock or so.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you do an elates, they were finished at I think

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_04]: it was nine.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh well.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it was busy and you know, it was a lot of cars

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and things and I suppose they were good days or what have you.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So what he used to do, he used to drive home about looking back

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's like about five 30 or quarter past five.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He'd pick me up.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He'd take my mum to work as well and then go into the

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_04]: into the garage, which I enjoyed.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Now that garage, I'm ever correct.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It was the biggest in the Southwest.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not there anymore, fortunately.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember is to go into the workshop and there'd be

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_04]: like, you know, like a new car that's waiting to be

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_04]: PDI'd what have you to go in the show.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it be like, yeah, just sit in that.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'll be just there doing my homework in a garage

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_04]: whilst the guys are all around doing what they're doing,

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_04]: you know what I mean?

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And once again, so then that would be from a correctly

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_04]: the mark three cover there came out then.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So then that was like, whoa, this is just kind of worlds away

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_04]: from the mark two cover dad.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Why won't you get a mark three?

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But those were, I suppose you can say the days.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And I do remember a guy who was the auto electrician

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: that was there.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's just nothing to do with like what my dad's got,

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's just popped into my head.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_04]: He had a Mark one golf GTI.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember that I was in black.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It was actually a campaign.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Nice.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember because he's in the trade and have you

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: working this off?

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember seeing him probably about seven, eight years ago.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And I said, you know, maybe you had your Mark one

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_04]: golf GTI campaign.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I sold that for it under a pint.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: No, you know, really kind of things off.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But you weren't that crystal boy want to know where he ended

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_04]: the day that that thing would probably be worth 15,

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_04]: 16, 17 grand now if you kept it in cotton wool.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_04]: But yes.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So going back to the memories of driving, you know,

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_04]: sometimes it'd come home in different cars as well.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_04]: That should be fair.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, from like an escort XR3.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember that that he picked me up from school

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and I felt very kind of like, hey, you know what I mean?

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_04]: This is kind of this is kind of cool.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, as I said before, I didn't really appreciate it

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: at the time.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's race tinted glasses.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You look back now, don't you?

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Just think why?

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_04]: They were they were good days and I'm sure they were

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_04]: good days in the automotive industry as well with

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: what was what was going on.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not too sure that that kind of thing would

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: happen again with health and safety.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, I know it won't to be quite honest with you.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, keep going over doing his home work in a car

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: or in the canteen area, which was it was

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_04]: interesting that she'd say, whilst my mates would be like,

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, what did you do last night?

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, playing on the computer or watching football

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: or without playing in a park or what have you with

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: your friends.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I know I was, you know, down looking

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: at cabinet GSR.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I just think it's just absolutely brilliant.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_04]: For me, I kind of think just, look, if the teachers

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_04]: at school looked up and went right, Sheridan, okay,

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_04]: this is algebra test instead of, I don't know,

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_04]: A equals whatever, it would have been better off to say,

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_04]: right, if you've got a Cavalier GLS minus a Cavalier GL,

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_04]: what does that equal?

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'll tell you, Cavalier L, do you know what I mean?

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That would have been better if he'd done that with me.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have done a lot better in school because

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_04]: that was where my head was at.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Really, it was just purely all cars.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember my parents had, you know, we had a Mark II

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Cavalier.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_05]: My mum and my stepdad had Mark II Cavalier,

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: a white one, which I think it was either a 1600

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and the engine went and they put a two litre in it

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_05]: or it was a 1800, they put a two litre in it.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Right, right.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that was good.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_05]: DMX I think was the last three on that.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And then my dad had a, yeah, sort of a champagne-coloured

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Mark III Cavalier, not new by any means.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It was a GL.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It was fairly well-specced.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what, it wasn't SRI or GSI.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't kind of fancy with hatch rather than saloon.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, that was a nice car actually.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_05]: That was comfortable.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And it felt worlds away.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_04]: The way that the dashboard kind of,

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_04]: you can tell I spent a lot of time in these cars

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: but the way the dashboard kind of curved down

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_04]: because the Mark II Cavalier dashboard was very kind of

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: off as a bit like a cliff and you sat quite low in it.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: The Mark III was, you know, had...

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It had a cubby hold in it above the glovebox.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: With the newer ones they put the airbag, but yes.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just kind of, things felt like spongy to touch

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: and you had the like a repointed steering wheel

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_04]: and it was like worlds away and it was like a progression.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But also you could look at them in the same way with the Mark II

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and you could work out what model it was by certain details.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But once again, like I said before, I spent more time

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: looking at that going, oh, okay, you know,

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and Al's got those world trims,

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and GL's got those and what have you then.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I did schoolwork stuff that I should have.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But that was basically what's kind of switched me on.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And even to the point of like,

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, set up memories as such.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But I remember that my primary school teacher,

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Mr. Gibson, tall, tall, tall guy,

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_04]: he looked all the way for me as an infant.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You were four foot at the time.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, you know what I mean?

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, yeah, I suppose but he was, you know,

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: he was, he was, he was tall.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But he had a Mark I GTI Golf

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and if he left anything in the car,

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_04]: he would just give me the keys

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and say, can you go and get it out?

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Which I look at that and think, that's just mad

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_04]: because he knew I'd walk up to his car, unlock it,

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: get whatever you wanted out, lock it back up

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and walk back into the class as an infant.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That's just mad looking back on it.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But I guess he kind of saw where my head was at.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I would assume, you know,

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_04]: because it would be lessons like, you know,

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: six weeks from school, what did you do?

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I went all the day.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I did this, that and the other Sheridan.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, let me talk to you about the new BNW735I

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_04]: that's just been launched type thing.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: That was how I was.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a trust exercise, isn't it?

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That sort of thing from a teacher.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I think so as well.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like one of those teachers that might let you

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_03]: address him by his first name on occasion.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Is he one of those?

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: He was, I don't know what his name is

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_04]: because the weird thing was,

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember going to secondary school,

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_04]: walking around and seeing him in like Wavell,

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: he comes smoking.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Well actually, prior to that,

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember he gave me a poster which was

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Pirelli Porsche Super Cup.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So it had racing 944s, 924s, 911s

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and what have you,

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: which I proudly put that on my wall.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember going,

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it was like first year

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_04]: or secondary school or second year,

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_04]: but I remember walking along.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And he drove up, the golf was gone.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He was in a 928s Porsche.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just like, school teacher in a Porsche 928s.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_04]: What's that look like today?

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's the heavy hitting school teacher's car,

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_05]: isn't it?

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was doing well.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He was doing very well,

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_04]: but it was just like, right,

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_04]: okay, as you do,

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_04]: or maybe a pain ball back then.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know,

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_04]: but I'm just thinking, yeah,

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_04]: school teacher kind of turns up in a Panama.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Something.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't know.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they were.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, so those are kind of my memories

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: because that never drove fast, let's just say.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And everyone else was always going to go in past

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_04]: even in the Cavalier,

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_04]: the Mark II.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_04]: You never really drove that quick.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember in the way I used to like to wheel spin

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: if you put it on four lock.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_04]: He'd be coming out of a junction

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and the Mark II was a little bit quieter,

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I suppose,

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: but the Mark II Cavalier,

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_04]: it was very kind of like,

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_04]: it's kind of sound.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And the front kind of backs up and down as he

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: as he pulls away,

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_04]: he did all of the way.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_10]: He'd be like,

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and off he kind of,

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: you know what I mean?

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just like,

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_04]: awesome, awesome.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And those were the only times that he would,

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_04]: he was one of those,

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_04]: if he did pull out of a junction,

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_04]: he'd go up to say 30, 35,

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and then that was it.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He would then slow back down with it.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I was more impressed when

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_04]: he was working on other people's cars

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_04]: because then it would be a case of,

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd mill around at the garage

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_04]: if he was doing it at home

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and he'd take it out for a test drive

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'd be like, oh yeah.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_04]: One of his mates had a Mark II SLI 130

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_04]: and that was just like,

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_04]: dad come on.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But once again,

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_04]: he never listened to me with that.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But I understand

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: because do you guys ever go to the British Motor Show?

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So when it was like an NEC or Ulse Court?

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I went to Ulse Court in

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_05]: 1995 I think.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah,

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been to a few of those sort of things.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never been.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You've never been?

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're my uncle or my dad would take us to the Motor Show

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_04]: but we're talking the 80s.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking the 80s.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a little bit older than you guys

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_04]: and we were looking around these cars

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and my dad was never really interested in how it looked.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So we'd be looking at these cars like going,

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_04]: wow, what have you?

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And my dad would be like,

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_04]: pop them on it

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_04]: and he'd be looking below.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't work on this.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't get your hand down.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Remember brother would be like,

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_04]: what were you on about?

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_04]: This thing's for a driver.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It's turbo, whatever.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_04]: But now I'm like, yeah,

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I see where he's coming from now actually.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Because everything knows about that

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_04]: but everything is all jam packed in there.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah,

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_04]: those are the memories of a dad would be like,

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_04]: we so difficult to move that

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_04]: to get inside there and all this.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And he just think, yeah,

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_04]: you were right.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't realise,

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: which I thought of anyway to be fair is like fair play.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a bit of dread now, isn't it?

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_03]: If you open the bonnet on something newer,

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: say you've got to do a bulb or something

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and just know you're going to open up sardines and then turn.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Or take the front bumper off and just like think,

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, that's like,

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: well, you know what I mean?

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's just those days,

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_04]: they were kind of coming as such.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, he looked at everything

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_04]: in a mechanical kind of,

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_04]: how could I fix it?

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You could do a wheel bearing

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_04]: on the side of the road type thing.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And a one or a mark two cabalera,

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, you can't do that now.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Can do it where you can, but you know what I mean?

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Or a clutch, let's just say,

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_04]: because a clutch now you've got to do subframe, isn't it?

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But before you could just, you know,

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: the three of us could have just done it type thing.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So I understand exactly where he's coming from.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't once again at the time.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, those were the good days

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: of going around to the motor show.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to pick up as many broaches

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_04]: as you possibly can do

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and then kind of walk in.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It was almost that kind of look

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_04]: at other kiddies and it's like,

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's got two bags.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'll go around quicker, you know,

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: and needs to give back posters as well

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_04]: and stuff like that,

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: which those were good days.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And I suppose he was in school

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and I said a little bit, yeah,

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_04]: what it would be like in the future search.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was caught.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I must have been 12, 13.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, I won a Canon camera

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_05]: on, I think it was a Purge stand.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_05]: They had like this sort of pseudo TV game show

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_05]: type thing.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was sort of, yeah,

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_05]: question and answers about stuff.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, I won this game show

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_05]: and there's like a big spinny wheel

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_05]: or something like that.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, and obviously I have my eye

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_05]: on like the massive telly or whatever.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_05]: That option was.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_05]: We went up in a friend's dad's car

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_05]: is obviously probably a good thing

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that I didn't win the massive telly.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I won this Canon camera,

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_05]: which was really nice.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I've still got it.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And actually it's still got half of a film in it

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_05]: from the early noughties or something

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_05]: that I haven't developed.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: No way.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Actually the pictures which are in it

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_05]: are of a friend's Cavalier GSI actually,

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_05]: which was hit on Madeira Drive

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_05]: down in Brighton.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_05]: We went out for an evening.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Someone drove into his car.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I happened to have a camera with me

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_05]: and so I took some pictures.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_05]: But I've never developed the film.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's still in the camera.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously a little bit late,

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_05]: 20 years later.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So is that insurance kind of pending

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_04]: the kind of proof

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_04]: of what happened?

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, everything was fine.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But we ran a car club

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and we sort of went to cruise events

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and stuff and used to take pictures.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_05]: It must have been on the cusp of

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I got a digital camera for my

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_05]: 20 first, I think.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we just went to digital

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and obviously you could take photos

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_05]: willy-nilly and you never have to worry

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_05]: about developing them.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah that one still got the film in it,

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_05]: which I should just for old times

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_05]: go and develop just to see what's on it.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just waiting for a whip beast

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: to reopen or something like that.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it whip beast?

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a go into a chemist.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's probably about 20 quid now to do a film.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I like it.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I like it.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_04]: But you should because yeah

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_04]: it'd be very interesting to see what's on it.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's just

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_05]: smashed up Cavalage, ESI and

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah, I don't know what else.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I think so, they waited for the evidence.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_04]: They can then close the case

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_04]: for the insurance stuff.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure I got sorted.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure I did.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Did your mum drive

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_05]: or does your mum drive?

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_04]: She doesn't.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_04]: She doesn't drive.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I took a

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_04]: car parked, I think.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I had a Mark II Golf

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like, yeah, this is, you know,

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_04]: right foot left foot and what have you clutch, etc.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And my mum says no,

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_04]: it's no, she does not drive.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But bless her, you know,

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_04]: she knows her cars.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_04]: She would say to me, I saw this car with pretty

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_04]: rear lights and what have you

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think it was an alpha.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like,

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_04]: do you know what I mean?

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, play, you know,

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_04]: for someone who's never driven

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_04]: but was in a household.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, my dad didn't really talk about cars

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_04]: to be quite honest with you.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But obviously me and my brother,

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_04]: we definitely did and myself

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_04]: totally because I'm a dreamer.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was just cars, cars, cars.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I am actually very impressed that,

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, this lady that

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_04]: she now can say 80

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_04]: is telling me that she's seen this

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_04]: pretty Alfa Romeo rear lights

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_04]: or isn't it a bit small,

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_04]: the little 500 and stuff like that.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_04]: When she's going to get her shopping

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_04]: or what have you or go up to the doctor's,

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_04]: which is kind of cool, you know.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Was it kind of family viewing top gear

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_05]: that sort of thing?

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously considering what you do now,

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_05]: were you inspired by that as well?

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but I was more

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_04]: of a William Willard,

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Chris Goughry.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So you guys are more nineties, right?

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I was born 83, so I'm...

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm 41 now, so...

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Okay.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So you kind of remember...

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I know the name.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I couldn't put face to them.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that was when kind of top gear

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: was a half an hour program

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and they would go for everything from,

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: how it drove to the size of the boot,

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: blah, blah, blah.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: But you'd have...

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Chris Goughry was the guy with the beard.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_04]: He would be like,

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I should have done

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_04]: absolute great car through the wood.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you had William Willard.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Really Willard was my man.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_04]: He was the guy that always put

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_04]: his leg up onto the bumper.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I was at lunch.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So when his hand on his hip type thing

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_04]: it would be, you know,

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: this car does 75 miles an hour.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was just that kind of view in from...

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, but dad would be there as well.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm the viewing for the three of us.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_04]: My mum was always in the kitchen.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_04]: She was always doing something.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_04]: She was never really, yeah, doing that.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But for us, yes, definitely.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm an old school top gear.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't get me wrong.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I watched a newer top gear and want to have you.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But for me, that was when, yeah, you know...

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I remember it kind of,

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess, yeah, Quintin Wilson probably Tiff.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Vicki Butler Henderson, like Pre Clarkson sort of era.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, probably Sunday night or something.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Wasn't it?

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Would it been...

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Was it Thursday evening?

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think back in the day

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_03]: it was Thursday 8.30, wasn't it?

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe actually.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Thursday evening, 8.30, yeah.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, possible.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_04]: After, I think tomorrow's world

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_04]: was on at 8 o'clock or something like that.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And then top gear might be on.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It was something like that

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: because I was thinking, yeah,

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: you would have had that.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It would have been Chris Goffey.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_03]: There was Tony Mason, remember him?

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_03]: He's had a bit of rallying, I think.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right, yeah.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously Quintin Wilson

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_03]: for his second hand car.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And Tiff Nadell got involved, didn't he?

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good spread.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Because that would be late 80s early 90s?

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it has to be sort of early to mid 90s, I guess.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You definitely had to get up

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_05]: to change the channel, didn't you?

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't a...

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_05]: No remotes there.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_04]: But I do remember totally off script here

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_04]: but we had a Ferguson TV

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and if you clapped, it changed channel.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And the remote control was,

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I know this is a podcast and all of them kind of said

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_04]: but it was about that thick.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It was almost like the professionals

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_04]: walkie-talkie type thing.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like a philoshave kind of size, you know?

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, that was kind of the only car program

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_04]: that you could kind of watch back then, wasn't it?

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So I suppose everyone did.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But that would be also another reason

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_04]: why I suppose I started to blog and did what I'm doing

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_04]: because I used to think of what Clarkson

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_04]: said about the Voxel Caballet.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I could never kind of get my head around that, I think.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, doesn't like it but I see so many of them on the road.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, is it really that bad?

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a vector, wasn't it,

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: that you completely murdered from memory?

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so it's a vector.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a vector, sorry.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a vector that he completely...

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, I always used to think,

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_04]: okay, point taken,

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_04]: but the general public and Europe seem to love it.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So, okay.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, so that was another reason I was like,

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_04]: there's a bad car out there now.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of what you like.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Back in the day, it was a different story, wasn't it?

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Because things rusted away.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember playing football in my street

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: and if the ball went under the car,

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_04]: you go down on all fours and you get the ball out

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and then you look for some grass or someone's garden

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_04]: to wipe the oil off the ball.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Those days have gone.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I could walk down my road

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_04]: and there's no patch of oil

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_04]: on the roads like they used to be.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Says he but an alpha spider

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that he puts a drip tray underneath.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's because it doesn't go anywhere.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, back in those days,

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_04]: you have to be careful where you're walking

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_04]: when you stepped off the curb

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: because there could have been a load of oil

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_04]: that had just been kind of congealed with water on the street.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Those days have gone.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I suppose there was a lot of hit or miss

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_04]: when it comes to cars.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess maybe you played a safe bet, didn't you?

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_05]: With a Ford or say with a Vox

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: or maybe the Volkswagen?

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Or you rolled the dice perhaps

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_05]: with kind of something a little like an alpha

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_05]: or a fear.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Or maybe less so with the French stuff.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_05]: The French stuff was probably reliable out of the box

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: but obviously maybe didn't last the test of time.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And they were just wacky

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_04]: even for me to see these,

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_04]: but I remember that was another thing primary school.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Miss Jones,

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_04]: she had one of the original BXs.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yay.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_04]: In like a beige color,

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_04]: like a fan color

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_04]: where the bumpers are a different color

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_04]: to the bodywork.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_08]: OK.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So this was the original.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So it might be like a 1986,

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_04]: like a C plate BX.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But I remember that rolling up and being like,

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_04]: there's nothing on the road like a BX

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_04]: apart from a CX

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're both Citrus, you know what I mean?

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That was just out of this world.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_05]: That was kind of early body color bumpers as well, wasn't it?

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It was almost like dyed plastic

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_05]: rather than painted plastic.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was just in that kind of,

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: well, it was like safari.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_04]: If you put that on a sand dunes,

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: you wouldn't see it.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I remember she had that.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know, and then you said about rolling the dice,

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_04]: because I said about the the 131 metaphorary fear

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_04]: that is the walk pass going up to school.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He or she never saw the owner of it.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It just used to park there.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That disappeared.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they had an alpha stud.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Heavy rainstorm.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, hey, I'm not having that.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, I'm not having that.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a lover of those guys.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Probably got rubbed off on the grass

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_03]: on someone's bowl that got attached to it.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Someone bought in a ball into it

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and that was it.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Dog walk and tread in it.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_03]: What's this?

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no.

[00:40:14] I'm not having that.

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But no, no, I'm not having that.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not having that.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_04]: He or she bought an alpha stud.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you throw my fear back please?

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's the thing,

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: because I have this conversation with my mates as well.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And all the cars back there used to rust.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Bit your voxels, your boards,

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_04]: your Daxons, your Toyotas.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I suppose some rusted faster than others maybe.

[00:40:37] I don't know.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But that TC engine was great.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's be fair, that's bulletproof.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, that was gone and then an alpha stud sprint.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Covaly with the green stripe round the bumpers.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was like, oh, I want one.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Once again, missed out on that

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_04]: because I should have bought one 20 years ago.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We're no one nothing.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But now if you can find one,

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: they're quite a bit of money now aren't they?

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember as a kid actually,

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I used to go to Scouts

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_05]: and there was another boy I went with

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_05]: and his mum, she'd been lent an alpha GTV

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_05]: coupe by a family friend to run around it.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_05]: So obviously it was a,

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess surplus to requirements these other people.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And they just lent it.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_05]: But remember the smell from that actually.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But obviously now that's kind of a really

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_05]: sort after sort of 80s cool car.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_05]: But back then it must have just been

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_05]: like second hand 500 quid banger.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to sell it,

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_05]: but yeah, if you want to use it for a bit,

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_05]: run around in it and yes, silver.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. When you finish with it,

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: just leave it there.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like I said before, because I get that a lot of people

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_04]: send messages when I put something up,

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, like a car,

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: what I've been in the 80s and they said,

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I had one of those and I a bit like Paul did with the TTI.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like,

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and I always just say it, Chris the boy,

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_04]: if only we knew,

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, we didn't know, you know,

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Cavalier GSIs were all over the place.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Nova GTs were all over the place.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We didn't know.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Now look at it.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_05]: You see it playing out.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't you nowadays?

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, obviously people kind of trying to second guess it.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_05]: If you look at modern cars like the Yaris GR came out

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_05]: and everyone went wild.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_05]: They were like, this is going to be the next,

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_05]: the one to buy.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And then now you kind of see that people are putting them up

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_05]: for sale because I guess they're getting itchy fingers.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_05]: They're realizing that actually in order for this

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_05]: to be worth something in the future,

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_05]: they have got a sale.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_05]: The fact that it is going to depreciate is going to drop.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to have to find some way of accommodating

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: this 30, 40,000 pound car in their life for the next 20 years

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_05]: to be able to see the sunshine on the other side of it.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why we didn't stockpile Cosworths or Golf GTIs

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_05]: or whatnot because yeah, who's got an empty barn

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_05]: and the Red Ease to buy those cars at the time?

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You'd be surprised if you've got an empty barn.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't really need to be putting it away.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Is a nest egg either do you really?

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I suppose.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You're already probably quite...

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I suppose that's the thing because it amazes me

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_04]: if I go to an auction or what have you

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_04]: and there are cars that are there that have done

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_04]: 20,000 miles or whatever it is

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_04]: and you just like go where's this thing been?

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You know the bean but yeah,

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a game that I would play if I had

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_04]: if I was a millionaire at the end of the day

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_04]: buy it, enjoy it, drive it, do whatever you want to do

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's a long game because nowadays the manufacturers

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_04]: know exactly what they're doing, don't they?

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's be fair.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_05]: We did bangers and cash live last year

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_05]: which was good fun actually.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_05]: We kind of were on stage chatting for a bit.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And one of the questions they were asking was about

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_05]: coming sort of up and coming

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think the Audi TT,

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Mark 1's probably got potential to sort of do that.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You can buy one of those, you can buy plenty of those

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_05]: for under a thousand pounds at the moment.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think it's probably got a design pedigree

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_05]: that does mean maybe it could go up in value

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_05]: in the future but there's probably not loads

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_05]: of them like that.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_05]: How long?

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_04]: What kind of time scale are you talking?

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_05]: What, it will go up in value?

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I reckon next five years they're going to be...

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You reckon next five years?

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I reckon they could be a five.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I reckon if you bought something at a grand now

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_05]: looked after it, give it five years

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_05]: it could be a four or five grand car potentially.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope we don't have to go through Covid again

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_04]: for that to speed up the process though.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, fingers crossed that wouldn't be good with it.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no but yes

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: because it's finished, they don't make it anymore.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But also I still think as mad as it sounds

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and obviously I'm slightly biased and I'm going to say it anyway

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_04]: the GTV Spiders because some of those are pretty cheap.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you look at the previous GTVs and what have you

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_04]: and Spiders because once again that was another car

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_04]: that I always had company cars and I was like

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_04]: right okay I want to have a bit of fun

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I was selling for a bit and half

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like do I buy the original

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Spider like the S1 or do I go for the 916 GTV Spider?

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I thought well I want to be driving it

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's going to be rusty if I go for the original Spider

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and I didn't and I look at the prices of the two cars

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think yeah I made a mistake there didn't I?

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Like the graduate Spider or like the wedge

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_05]: so you've got the wedge type shape, is that what you mean?

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking so like 1990 the last of them

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_04]: were 93s on the K I think as well.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You know the ones?

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah so the GTV Spider like what I've got

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_04]: so yeah like the GTV and the Spider 916

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: 4 I'd like somewhat have you

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and then you've got the graduate one yeah

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of got slightly bigger towards the end of its

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_04]: manufacturer what I'd be because they put bigger bumpers

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_04]: on and all the rest of it with the ducktail

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of rear end and what have you

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_04]: but they are worth a lot more money than

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_04]: my Spider but at the time once again

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_04]: back in I don't know whenever I bought it

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: 18 years ago what have you

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_04]: they were kind of at the same price

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was just thinking about maintenance

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_04]: that I got my dad to blame for that

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_04]: which is it doesn't matter because I love it anyway

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's just that kind of thing of

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah you're saying like which car

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_04]: because they're different

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah TT I'll go along with that

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_04]: but the cars now are kind of different

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: to the way they used to be and to me

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_04]: it's what I think they are as in you know

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_04]: your XR2Is your GTEs your GTIs

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_04]: they look really different

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_04]: because they kind of took stuff off

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and kind of coded stuff wasn't it you know what I mean

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_04]: as in now the

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_04]: high end of these cars you have to look

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_04]: really hard to try and work out the difference

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_04]: between the models but

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I think you're right with the TT

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I personally think

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_04]: the Mark III Golf GTI

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_04]: because they're cheap now and if you can find

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_04]: a 16 valve one that would be

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that would be good and I also think the Mark IV

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think are really good cars

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_04]: like the 1.8 Turbo

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I think one of the biggest problems for these cars

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_03]: the tipping point and then becoming

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_03]: sort of more pricey

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_03]: is the fact that Mark IV Golf is

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_03]: a great example there's still so

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_03]: many of them around that's the thing

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I think until they become rarer

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_03]: because also another great example

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_03]: is E39 BMWs

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_03]: they are still like you can pick those up for

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_03]: 800 to 1500 quids

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_03]: obviously the cheaper you go the more

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_03]: sort of banglish they're going to be but

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_03]: there are still tons of those around

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_03]: people have been saying for years that

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_03]: E46 M3 which I think

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_03]: eventually will be you know

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_03]: mega money they're still 12 to 15 grand

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_03]: for you know an okay

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_03]: to good one but there's still so many of them

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_03]: around that's the thing and that's like the last

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: straight six M3

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_03]: stick you know

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_03]: it's got everything going for it

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_03]: but that price is still

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_03]: 15 grand for a good one

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_03]: whereas in reality

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_03]: people are probably thinking by now

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe it should be 30 40 grand

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_04]: well that's the end of the day it's all about

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_04]: supply and demand and how many are still there

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_04]: that's what I was just asking about the TT

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_04]: because obviously there's a lot of those

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that are still around but I remember the days

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_04]: of when I was working for a Porsche dealership

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_04]: 928s no one want

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I say no one want the 928 that's not true

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_04]: because it was case of their own theory

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_04]: trouble but you know

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_04]: 928 was 5 and a bit grand

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_04]: an XJS Jag got

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_04]: 2, 3 grand and what have you and now I see

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_04]: them and I'm like a nice

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_04]: one is 27 grand isn't it

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_04]: it's 30 grand or what have you

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh if you find one with a manual gearbox you can be spending

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_05]: 70 80 grand on a 928

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_05]: easily auto's

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_05]: 10 a penny and you can get into

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_05]: one with an MOT for probably

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_05]: 8 or 10 grand but I'm actually going to be spending

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: on that yeah as you say it could

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_05]: be trouble but yeah if you want a manual

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_05]: one I've got a 944

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: good car and that's kind of a similar

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_05]: story I still have one of those I bought

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_05]: it five years ago for 5 grand

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_05]: but if I'd have bought it probably two years prior to that

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_05]: it would have been a 2 grand car try selling

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_04]: one for 32

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_04]: 50 I remember correctly mine was

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_04]: guards red black leather

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I miss it dearly

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_04]: once again I'm supposed to

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_04]: be about cars aren't I

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: speak of an experience don't get rid

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_05]: keep all of it yeah it's

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_05]: not going anywhere for the time being

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_04]: no they will go up

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_04]: look at the S2s

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_04]: what 910 upwards aren't they

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah and the turbos

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: 25 grand plus on some of those

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_04]: so they will happen but

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_04]: if you'd have spoken to me 20 years ago

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_04]: 25 years ago and say that a Renault 5 GT

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_04]: turbo even a Renault 4Waygo

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_04]: but yeah like a Renault 5 GT turbo

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_04]: it would be worth the money it is now

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_04]: or Renault 1916 valve

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Shimela whatever it was back then

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_04]: it would be worth the money that people want for them now

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd have laughed at you well actually that's a lie

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have got a warehouse

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_04]: see what I mean

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have spoken to my mates and said

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_04]: look we just all share it out when it comes to the rental

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_04]: we're just by all these cars

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_04]: like you said the field of Cosworths and all that

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Nova GTs and

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Nova SRs and just shove them in there

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and leave them

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_05]: unless you're a millionaire

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and in which case

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_05]: what's the point you're already a millionaire

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_05]: it's putting your million pounds on red

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_05]: when you don't need to put your million pounds on red

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_05]: like just live off the interest

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_05]: or whatever it is by some properties

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_05]: play it safe

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_04]: because at the end of the day when it comes to

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_04]: property, land, property cars

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_04]: go land, property then buy a car

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_04]: not the other way around

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_04]: financial advice

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not Martin Lewis or anything

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_04]: right okay so that's not my specialty

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_04]: financially finance but it's just that kind of

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd love to have this conversation in 20, 30 years time

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: pencil it in

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_04]: please do

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_04]: because I just don't know if we're going to have

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_04]: this period that we've had this time

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and the way things are because obviously

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_04]: you can still get the manufactured parts

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_04]: and things like that back then

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_04]: you just throw it away

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I go back to that one through one

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_04]: fear they were around

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_04]: when I was a kid and now they're all gone

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_04]: now they're a lot of money

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_04]: it's that thing isn't it, Astra GT

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Mark ones? There are plenty of them around

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah people will pay for that

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_05]: nostalgia won't they? Exactly

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_05]: when there's not many left but yeah there's a street full of them

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_05]: that's what's got to happen with the OTT

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah maybe it's too good

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe it needs to be something that actually

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_05]: was sort of had a fault

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_05]: or kind of an issue

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess with the Fiat like they did rust

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah and they didn't

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_05]: survive and perhaps because of that maybe the

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_05]: TT is too good yeah maybe

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_05]: it's got to be a bit more of an oddball

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah because I don't know what the parts supply

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_04]: is like

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_04]: for Audi's and what I mean because

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got fun if you can still get a lot of the parts anyway

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_04]: sure you can yeah so we should then keep

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_04]: more from on the road which is great because that's

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_04]: environmentally friendly and that's exactly what we want

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_04]: to be doing anyway

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a hard one I know that

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_04]: when I finish with you guys and what have you

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_04]: when you finish with me I will be sitting

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_04]: down thinking what car why didn't

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I say that? Why haven't we

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_04]: mentioned any of the British stuff

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_04]: like you know

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Robins and stuff? I guess

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_05]: you've got something like the proton GTI

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_05]: or maybe the MG's

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_05]: or something along those lines yeah sporty

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_05]: stuff seems to do well

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_05]: and yeah they're not kind of surviving

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_05]: they've gone to rock bottom yeah MGZR

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_04]: whatever MG's are

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_04]: definitely in that class

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_04]: of I can't believe the prices

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_04]: of them and at some point

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_04]: you know like the Tomcats

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_04]: you know I think they're over 200 I think they're great cars

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I got a funny

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_04]: feeling that we'll have this conversation

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_04]: in 10 years time what have you

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and be surprised at how much they actually

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_04]: cost yeah I just

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_04]: have this funny feeling because

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_04]: but then you can still get parts from them

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I suppose at the end of the day I don't know

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_05]: it doesn't matter if you can get parts from them

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_05]: if the cars are all beaten up or

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_05]: right away or yeah if it's a 500 pound car

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's 500 pounds worth of welding

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_05]: 8 out of 10 people are going to scrap it

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I suppose so

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and the numbers go yeah

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know I haven't looked for an

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Aviva HC like my dad's

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_04]: but I'm assuming

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_04]: it's going to be 6 grand upwards

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have thought I guess

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_05]: but I don't think they carry Mark 1S

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_05]: whereas actually they were on the roads at the same time

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_05]: weren't they that sort of thing

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_04]: that's a tax though that's a tax isn't it

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_04]: that's the forward tax that I

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_04]: don't quite understand

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_04]: really I'm not knocking

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: escorts and cortiniers and what have you in Capris

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I love them now when I look at them

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like that's so cool but you

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_04]: put a Capri in equivalent you know

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Manta, the Capris

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_04]: commands a bigger price I don't know

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_04]: why and if you guys can tell me

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_04]: about the reasons why but

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd rather have a Manta

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: so would I

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_05]: that's half our listener base gone

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_05]: switch off Christ now we were

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_05]: on board with that for a minute

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't mean it

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, so he finished it and he came back on it

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_03]: put us down to two listeners

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_03]: that would Andy

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, my mum's

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_03]: don't mention Fiesta

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_04]: my mate's got a Capri that he's selling

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's just like you look around at it

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_04]: it's just great it's awesome

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_04]: at the time I was a Voxel guy

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_04]: but side by side

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_04]: now I've got proper respect

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_03]: for it I find that the same sort of thing

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_03]: with footballers as well like when I was younger

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: take some of Teddy's showing

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_03]: for example I had a hatred for him

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and was he actually that good

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_03]: because he had the wrong shirt

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_03]: well that was a problem yeah

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_03]: but looking back

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I just sort of think amazing talent

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_03]: top professional all the rest of it

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_03]: exactly it's just when you're in the moment

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_03]: you just don't

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_03]: you can't kind of grasp it

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I suppose no no and that's the funny thing

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_03]: about it oh Jesus Teddy

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah he did

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_04]: if you listen to Teddy yeah he don't

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_04]: but that's the funny thing about it so it's just that

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking at it so hence why I love it

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_04]: when I'm looking at those older cars

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_04]: of that kind of generation because there isn't one

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_04]: that I don't like you know there was a

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Morris a towel that went through the classic car

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_04]: auctions and I look at it and I said to my brother

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: it's like if I had four and a half grand

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_04]: and had somewhere to put it

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd buy that

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: because it's just nostalgia

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and you're preserving it at the end of the day

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: you know what I mean it's like it's in my care

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I can take it to shows and drive around

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_04]: it and what have you

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_04]: as a kid it wasn't like I want

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_04]: actually I did quite like them because I had black bumpers

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_04]: but it wasn't like you know I'd rather

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_04]: have a Mark II Cavallel but I've just got an appreciation

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like fostering children isn't it

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_03]: but in sort of automotive terms

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah you know what I mean

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: so it's back I'll put a little car

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll take you in

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll take it come on

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_04]: trust me we should speak to my other half

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_04]: she'll take to you that

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_04]: that's how I look at it

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_04]: so maybe in

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know 20 30

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_04]: years time we're look at the

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_04]: new high and die and I whatever

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and go cool

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember that

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_04]: at the time I didn't like it but now

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_04]: well yeah I don't know

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_04]: if interested to see where we go

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_04]: with all this with the cars and everything else

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_04]: but definitely for me like 70s

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_04]: 80s 90s is the

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_04]: sweet spot for me I think that's as good a place

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_03]: as any to end it isn't it

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_05]: absolutely that's fantastic

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_05]: thank you very much for joining

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Sheridan and good fun not a fun

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_04]: for talk it's been a pleasure keep doing

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_04]: what it is great cool cheers boys

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_04]: bye bye bye bye bye cheers

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: right cool

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_05]: that was a long one but good fun it was a long one

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I think yeah he gave quite a lot on that

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_05]: and it did feel like we could have this

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_05]: conversation for hours and obviously in the

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_05]: back of my head so somehow I've got to edit this

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_05]: but some yeah great to

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_05]: have him on board some nice stories of

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_05]: foxels and doing his homework in the

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_05]: dealership workshop

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah trusted with the keys to his teachers

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_05]: golf GTI I guess if you

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_05]: brought up around cars I think

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_05]: you do get trusted a bit more by adults

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_05]: who are into cars yes growing up stuff

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_05]: isn't it they understand that you've got an

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_05]: appreciation for you're not going to smash it up

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_05]: they can kind of trust you with it but

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah thoroughly enjoyable and

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah good to kind of find out a bit more about

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_05]: what he does and all the rest good stuff

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_05]: okay thank you very much John all right

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_05]: and make wrap it up roll the credits

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