Sally Alington: London Safari in a 2CV, a Mini Van, my Mum's Taxi, Keys left in ignition, a free Porsche and Ford Mustangs! S4E9

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to My Dads Car, enjoy!

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to My Dads Car, a podcast discussing our personal relationship with automotive nostalgia.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know what? It doesn't even have to be about your Dads Car.

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It can be your Mums, your Grants, your Parents, Guardians or even a Neighbours.

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_04]: If it made an impression, let's talk about it.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, look at that shirt.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought you'd like that.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely the response you were after, wasn't it?

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: For the benefit of the tape, I'm wearing a Hawaiian shirt.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing says it's nearly summer holidays like.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Flip-flops as well?

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no. Still got my socks on actually.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: To be honest, I've just literally grabbed the nearest thing to hand before jumping on the recording.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Because going from work, I've been walking around Topless for a while because it's so hot.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You're doing that fireman's calendar again.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. Good uptake last year.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Two people.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Only one way from here.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: We're just waiting for Sally. She joined but her video wasn't working.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright, okay.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_04]: She's going to give it another go and then...

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey!

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Done it.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Who are you?

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good, thank you.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And you? You alright?

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good. Hi John. How are you?

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi Sally. How are you? Yeah, I'm okay, thanks.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good. Nice to meet you.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You too.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, I sound a bit coldy. I've had this horrible summer flu thing that everyone's had because I think we've had just a winter, haven't we?

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't had a summer.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's... We'll start things off. I don't know, have you heard any of these we've done?

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what? I just come in so busy I haven't but I always see your posts on them and I know your love of cars, I know your dad's love of cars, I love the concept.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So I will, I promise you I will listen to some over the weekend and things.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It's fine. So yeah, we'll start it off. Yeah, today we're joined by Sally Allington who, yeah, for the benefit of the tape is my cousin.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And one of very few family members we've had on the podcast so far, obviously my two daughters have been on for very sort of brief episodes.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: This will constitute hopefully a more fuller episode and lots of stories. So yeah, welcome along Sally.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Andy. Lovely to be here. I'm delighted and yeah, nice to do something family wise as well as well as doing some fun talking about cars.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Fantastic. What's your earliest car memory or your earliest motoring memory?

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Hilarious actually because my mum and dad, as you know Andy, because you know my family, they're a little bit bohemian, they're a bit different.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so my earliest car memory is my dad's minivan. So this is we're talking early 80s and it was, I always call it the minivan.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it had a different name but it was sort of navy blue with these sort of white panels on the side and then these two doors at the back.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You could do it was really like a little tiny little van. And we just loved it. It was it was quite hilarious.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: We loved going in the back. So this is obviously the days before health and safety.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But days before seatbelts in the back or anything like that, there weren't even seats in the back.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It was really just you know he got it because he had a carpet cleaning business and it could fit the carpet cleaning machine in there.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. And we used to go on weekends actually down says come and see you and come down and go camping and things.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And my mum and dad just had a big mattress in the back and Luke and I, my brother and I used to just literally lie under a duvet on the mattress and go to sleep.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Which you know, drums up all manner of like horrendous health and safety potential disasters.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But we're still here to tell the tale. So you know, I think we've gone health and safety mad. Who needs seatbelts right?

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know he did carpet cleaning. I'd only kind of known him being in the airline business but.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah actually it was between jobs. He had been at Iran Air and then there was the revolution in Iran in 1979 and he was made redundant.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And with the redundancy money he decided to buy a carpet cleaning machine and go cleaning carpets.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So him and my mum used to go and do that. They got some quite big contracts. They used to clean the Park Tower Hotel at near Park Lane.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh wow, nice. So what came after the minivan? Do you know?

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah well there's another early memory before I go on to what came after.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: There's another early one of my gran. My gran always had a series of hilarious cards and then there was a Morris Minor.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: There was an original Morris Minor which was gorgeous. She used to borrow it from somebody. I can't think who it was but that was always really fun.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So there was sort of those classic old looking cards, always lovely. None of these cards were ever brand new.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But my parents always bought secondhand cards. We never had any money to buy brand new cards.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Until the one that came after the minivan which was the 2CV, the Dishiver.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And my mum had fallen in love with this again. A classic iconic looking car. It was bright red. I felt like it was something out of Noddy.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It had those little headlights that were sort of, they were almost like eyes on the front.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And again back to the neck of health and safety you could roll the roof. It was like a material roof. You could roll it all the way back and tie it.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So the whole roof was open and my brother and I used to stand on the back seat with our heads out.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And drive around London. Like you're on safari. Exactly, like we were on safari. Yeah, a London safari which was great.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And yes I think our cars were always the ones everyone noticed at school because I went to school in a very kind of plush area, East Sheen in South West London.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And most of the mums and dads were turning up in Range Rovers and we'd sort of turn up on our London safari poking our heads out at the bright red 2CV.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Definite theme there isn't it with those small little cars full of character.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Completely, character definitely. Yeah, yeah and you become so attached to them. They're like family members aren't they?

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I remember when we got rid of both of those cars and it was like there was bereavement. It was like oh my god, what are we going to do without the lovely 2CV or without the minivan? It was funny.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Did they ever have names? Did they get into naming their cars?

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The only one we did name was years later. My gran had a car that was called Ducky, I don't know why. That was another little mini. There was lots of mini themes that went along.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: My gran had a whole series of funny cars. She had a really old Renault 5 and she was hilarious. Do you remember my gran Andy? Yes.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Edna. Yeah, we referred to her as I guess Auntie or something along those lines I guess.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but proper gran's name that is isn't it Edna? Isn't it yeah. Good pedigree.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The funny thing was it wasn't her, it was her middle name. Her real name was Florence which I think is so pretty and Edna, I don't know there's something, but no offence to any Ednas who are listening.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know why she switched it around and she insisted everyone call her Edna. But yeah she had this old Renault 5, white Renault 5 that she used to have parked in the driveway at her house.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And she was so hilarious. So she didn't forget her car key or lose her car key, she used to leave it in the ignition.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And so that no one would steal it she used to put a winter glove over it. So there was like this random hand over the key. It's like I don't think that's really hiding it Nan is it?

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That will stop her.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that will stop them. I mean thank goodness you know it was such an old heap of rubbish and you know it was never really of anyone's interest to want to steal it. But yeah I'm sure that invalidates all your car insurance.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_04]: There's probably a light finger joke in there somewhere.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably there is yeah.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Or red handed. Shouldn't know you'd have a hand in it Andy.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah I'm sure that invalidates your car insurance if you leave the keys in the ignition and disguise it by putting a glove over it.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She needs one of those stickers doesn't she? No keys left in this van overnight or this car overnight.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah exactly yeah. Don't mistake my glove for hiding the keys in the ignition.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Excellent. And she'd do that anywhere not just at home I guess if she went to the shops or whatever.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I'm sure you know she was very trusting. She was the war generation you know it was like everyone's a good egg and no one would ever want to steal my car which unfortunately yeah.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Well hopefully no one did but you know but unfortunately I think people do steal cars don't they which is horrendous.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Sadly yeah. I seem to recall a metro but I don't know whether that was yours or whether that was your grand's.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: No there was a metro you're absolutely right. I probably don't have it as vivid in my imagination because I wasn't in love with it as much as I loved the mini you know the mini van, the mini, the 2CV.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But no you're absolutely right there was like a light blue metro. Trying to think what other ones there were along the way. There was a Ford Escort for sure.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. Yeah but they were all basically clapped out old things although there was a Ford Fiesta I learnt to drive in my dad's Ford Fiesta and can vividly remember the clutch was really slipping when he needed to get it tightened and when I was doing my dad was so lovely and would always take me out doing some practice laps around Sainsbury's Car Park after it had closed.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I got used to this quite slippy clutch and I was got myself into the hang of like oh this is all good and then he went and got it actually sorted to how it should be and I threw a massive strop because I couldn't do it anymore.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like kangaroo you know jumping the car and I was like go and get that trained. He was like because it was actually broken. I had to relearn how my skills of clutch control.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you remember music being in the car while you're kind of traveling? Was that a thing?

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god absolutely, absolutely. We would always, my mum used to drive us to school every day because we moved a bit outside of Sheen. We moved to Twickenham and it's not that far but she used to drive us in and we'd always have Steve Wright the DJ who very sadly we lost this year didn't we?

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But he was brilliant. He'd always be on radio one and Simon Mayo there'd be one kind of which way around it was. One was going in for the breakfast show and one was on the coming home show.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That would always be on. I remember when we first got one with a tape deck I mean I felt like we were into the sort of space age when we had to play our tapes in the car that was quite incredible and then yeah later on when I got cars you know I couldn't believe when I had a CD player I was like my god like life doesn't get any better.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know when you had that sort of eight disc changer in the booth and you're like I can literally switch between eight different CDs like I have hit the big time.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I've still got a glove box full of CDs. Do you? I've not kind of graduated. To be fair I did have iPod for a bit and then I've kind of gone back to CD. Yeah. You've got one of those big wallets Andy that you zip up.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Now I've just got loads of discs and naturally every CD is in the wrong case. Oh it should be. Yeah, yeah. Just because you're changing them at traffic lights aren't you? You just kind of grab one and you're just like half looking on your lap.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And by the way occasionally I used to use an old mixed CD for sort of de-icing the windscreen when I lost my de-icer.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah you can't do that with an mp3 can you?

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: These days you know you just talk to the car and get it to play you know links into Spotify or whatever and you just tell it what's playing. I love that. It's a whole new world.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you remember the cars breaking down at all?

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah. There were various times I broke down with my gran and they were all so you know it's so funny thinking back to those days before Sat Nav or using Google Maps as we do now and you know my nan was quite young age.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd sit in the front seat and she'd give me a map like a big sort of A to Z of the UK. We might do like a trip to Margate or something and she'd be like right can you tell me where to go?

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'd be sort of trying to like follow with my finger these roads and go where do we have to go? I have no idea. So yeah that was always good fun.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The London A to Z and the massive UK one you know it was huge. Especially when you're a kid those huge books you'd be like trying to desperately.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Then suddenly it went off the page and it would be like turn to page 100 or whatever and you're frantically trying to find where that road came off on the page before. It was hilarious.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So but yeah breakdowns I do remember the cars breaking down was quite unreliable. Various bits failing inside like you know the demister and all that stuff and having to use your arm to kind of do the thing across the windscreen and demist it.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there was a lot of that.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Talking of maps am I right in thinking your mum did taxi driving? Did she do the knowledge?

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She did.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: She did the knowledge. So what happens is in London you can do the central London knowledge takes about three years.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You can do the knowledge and still have a Hackney carriage, a black taxi or the Hackney carriage license if you do the knowledge for your borough.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And so she decided to do it for the borough of Spellthorn. It was a time when my brother had been in hospital for quite a long time and she was working for the NHS and I think was finding it stressful and difficult doing long days.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: She was going to see Luke before and after work and then also working in a hospital. She was working at Charing Cross and so she was like, you know what I've never heard of a poor taxi driver in my life.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is the way to make money and also you know combine doing trips, take people to the hospital and I can then go and see Luke and all that stuff.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah, it was oh my God. She needs to write a book about her taxi experiences. The people that she met doing taxi driving and she called it Angela's Taxi and she had t-shirts printed.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and I don't know if you know but like taxi, these taxi rams, it's a bit of a little mafia that goes on. It's a weird world, the taxi world.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And she decided to, because she was signed off to have a Hackney carriage in the borough of Spellthorn which is near, includes Heathrow and all that area.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And so she decided that you know she was allowed to go and hang out at Staines Taxi Ramp and wait for fares by the train station.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And initially there was sort of not a very warm welcome. She was the only woman there and it was a very male clique of this sort of mafia.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I mean, you know my mum, Mandy, she is hilarious and I think very quickly they were all just in love with her and they were like, yes, we love Angela and they would literally protect her with their lives.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, she had so many brilliant stories, very brilliant stories of strange people that she picked up in her cab and people that you know, unfortunately some people run off and try not to pay and people that would get her doing these weird trips.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: She used to take this guy around who would just wanted to photograph London. I said to her, I feel like this sounds like hostile reconnaissance.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he was a terrorist and we should have reported him but I mean this was a good time ago so I think we're safe. I think we're okay.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, some very, very strange people that she met.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Was it a black cab?

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So she could have got a black cab but they're very expensive so she ended up getting herself a Vauxhall Sofira and so it was sort of the people mover type thing.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But the difference between being just a private mini cab and the Hackney carriage is that even if you're not in a black cab but you have the Hackney carriage license, people are allowed to flag you down on the street in your borough.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Or if you've done the central London knowledge they can obviously flag you down in central London.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So she was allowed to pick up fares wherever she wanted in the borough and obviously get pre-booked and all that stuff.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, she did it for a good amount of time but she's too nice my mum. That's why she never made any money from it.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: She always goes, don't pay me that. Don't worry I'll just drop you. It's like mum, this is the whole point. You're meant to be making money from driving people.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: She's got this all wrong.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I know she's too funny.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh you mentioned people from school who had got kind of Range Rovers and things. Do you remember neighbours who had got either fancy cars or cars which were just dreadful?

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh gosh, neighbours with interesting cars. I mean there was the car, it wasn't that it was that interesting.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was probably something like a Mondeo where we lived in Twickenham in the 90s.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And the only reason it sticks to my mind is because it was when we realised that my dad was totally colour blind because he always used to talk about this blue car and we were like, do you mean the purple car?

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And we used to have this funny debate about the colour of the car.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think of any neighbours who had strange cars or fancy cars but I have a good story about a fancy car that I was given as a present.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You were given one?

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was given one. I was given a Porsche.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh really?

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I used to work for an Iranian guy who was quite a character.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I always used to back in the day sort of equate him to a bit like Stelios from EasyJet.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you remember Stelios but he was this total character and a little bit Marmite.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I think some people thought he was like this sort of wow, like completely amazing, didn't quite follow what he was talking about because he had a very thick accent.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then other people were a bit like, I'm not sure who this guy is and it's all a bit weird.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But he had this personality that he had these moments of absolute wild generosity and moments of the opposite.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever that is.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And when I was getting married in 2010 to Toby, he asked me what car I was going into the wedding.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the time I'd said it wasn't really a wedding where people show you arrive.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And because my mum and dad went to their wedding in a Fiat 500, like an original Fiat 500, Topolino.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And Toby's sister and dad both had the new Fiat 500.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So one was white, one was red.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought this could be really cool.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I could borrow the two Fiat 500s and I could go in the white one ahead and then my bride's bates could go in the red one.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be quite cute turning up in two Fiat 500s.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So I remember him saying to me, darling, what car are you driving to in your wedding?

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, I'm going in a Fiat 500.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, oh my God, no, no, no, this is awful.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't go in a Fiat 500. This is horrendous.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He said, no, you need a good car. You need to go in a nice car.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, I'm really happy with the Fiat 500.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: My mum and dad went in a Fiat 500.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, this went on and on.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like on this campaign of you can't go in a Fiat 500.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And so about two weeks before the wedding, he rang me and said, can you come and meet me?

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in South Kensington.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was always doing wild things like you never quite knew what was going to go on.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So I went to meet him and he was at this classic car dealership.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And Bezard used to buy cars like they were going out of fashion.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Every week he'd have something different.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was looking at these cars and he was like, what do you think of this?

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of that?

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I mean, they're all beautiful.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: They're stunning old classic cars.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, what do you think of this one?

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a white Porsche.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like a 1970s.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I should know the exact type of that.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I think would there have been a 911 in the 70s?

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It had the Targa top.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the tops that you could take off and put it so it turned into a convertible.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But you put the roof in the boot, which the boot was the bonnet all the way around.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, what do you think of this?

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, it's beautiful.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, well, here you go.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's your wedding present.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You have it.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Good stuff.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my God.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: This is unbelievable.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So I got in this car and oh my God, trying to drive this car, trying to get out of the car dealership in South Kensington.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think I turned onto Kensington High Street.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, I kept stalling it.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I could not get my head around this.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It felt very strange, the kind of clutch and the whole thing was very, very difficult.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Then I got onto Kensington High Street.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd stopped in a sort of queue of traffic and put it into neutral.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I went to go.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought I put it into reverse and I nearly reversed into a bus.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I stalled it.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You know when you can see people looking and laughing and going, so that's definitely not her car.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: She definitely doesn't know how to drive that car.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I rang Toby on the way and was like, you need to meet me.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, why?

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, you'll see him when I get there.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming to pick you up.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So I turned up and picked him up in this car and I'd taken the roof off.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was just like mind blown.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, this is unbelievable.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So where we lived in Twickenham at the time, Toby and I, we had a flat and it had off street parking, but not under cover.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And I put the roof back on, but overnight it poured with rain.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think this car had honestly been like loved and kept in cotton wool somewhere in a garage.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone had really cared for it.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And when I went to get in it to go to work in the morning, rain had kind of come through bits of the roof.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So the seat was all wet.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh no.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I know. And then I started to drive off in it and it was one of those wet damn mornings and it had all steamed up.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, like I was saying a bit earlier about that demister thing working and I was rubbing my elbow or my arm across the windscreen to try and demist it.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was thinking, I mean, it's so lovely and generous, but this is highly impractical, this car being sort of a business person who has to drive around London.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I got to the office and he came up to me and said, how's the car?

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you love it?

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I love it.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I do need to be totally honest with you.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like this car needs to be with someone who has a garage.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't, I told him about the roof leaking and everything.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he was furious, not with me, but he was furious that they'd sold him this car in his mind was faulty.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he was like, I'm taking it back.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So it got taken back.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: This all went quiet.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought back to plan A, fit 500s to the wedding.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought you were going to say he's going to build you a garage.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: What about four days before the wedding?

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I get a call, darling, can you come and meet me?

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh my God.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like so busy.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, where are you?

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in Guildford.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So I had to go with my Guildford.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, well, get it, get a taxi.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So I got there and he bought me a new one.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He bought me a Carrera Forest 911 Carrera Forest Convertible.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was my wedding present.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It was unreal.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was silver.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It was stunning.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It had like a car phone inside, like an actual phone in the car.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my God, like this is mental.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You could put a SIM card in it and everything.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of mad.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I did go to the wedding in that car and it was a beautiful car.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And then about three years later, he was in one of his other moods.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And I remember one day driving in the car and he said, I don't know why you drive that car.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It gives everyone the impression that we charge too much.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, well, you mean the car that you gave me?

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And we had a big thing about it.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, it sounds like you want it back.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I gave him the keys and he took it back.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So I had it for three years.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It was three fun years.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hilarious.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you still speak to him?

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We won't ask you anymore for professional reasons.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll draw a line on the situation.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That's quite the story though.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Not because of the car.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Not because of the car.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I have to say, regardless of taking it back, what a generous thing to do.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm mind blown by that generosity.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's incredible.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: To be fair, if someone gives you a car for a day, that's quite a nice thing, isn't it?

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Agreed. Absolutely agreed.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It was three fun years of having the Porsche.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, brilliant story.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Sounds like quite the character.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think any of your parents' cars have influenced vehicles you've bought?

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Porsche has influenced vehicles that I've bought.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: He gave you a taste for us.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I've gone down the route of supercar versus second-hand.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So did the gift then, Sally?

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm assuming that you've invested in Porsches thereafter.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, no.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go and buy a Porsche thereafter.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I am absolutely obsessed and in love with the Mustang.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And being called Sally, I have a Mustang.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think I haven't seen another one of my kind in the UK.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I upgraded.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I had a, what year was it?

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: 2018 I had a convertible five-liter V8.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I've bought now the California edition.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I've not seen one in the UK.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to get it shipped from the US.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, right.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's the Mustang five-liter.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The only difference really in terms of engine and everything was it went from

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: the six-speed gearbox to a 10-speed.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: 10.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just, it's a beast.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a beast.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I prefer driving the Mustang to driving Porsche.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it is a proper grunt machine.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hilarious.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Fantastic.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: When they drive down, you can just hear it coming from like a long way away.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it sets off the alarm as well when he kind of.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it does.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to move to a house that doesn't have any neighbors.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I was waking everyone up on the street.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a, it's a lovely car.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And on a day like today, you know, it's 29 or whatever it is that your car said

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: it was 33 degrees.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, roof down and all that stuff.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so nice.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I do love a convertible.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm completely obsessed with convertible, which is hilarious being British

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: because when how many days a year do we get to have the roof down?

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's good when you can.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's also good for the tip.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: If you've got something long, you can just sort of poke it out.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So practical.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Getting the Christmas tree every year is always done best with the

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: convertible.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a nice little Christmas tree poking out the top.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_03]: If you ever need to sell it, you can just sort of use those little

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_03]: catch points there.

[00:25:16] Yeah.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it left-hand drive as well?

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's right-hand drive.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to drive an original Mustang.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I've never driven an original, but I would love to, to have a go at

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: driving one of those.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_04]: While you're over in the States, maybe you can do a big road trip.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Put it down as work.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Take it long to a, there's probably countless Mustang owners club

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: mates, isn't there in this country?

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I'd imagine with some classics.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what I love about having a Mustang that people are

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: obsessed with them.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I get hugs quite a lot.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: People are like, oh my God, I love this car.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Come and give me a hug.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very strange.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And you tell them your name as well.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Expecting a guy with a cowboy hat and a big handlebar

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: mustache to get out.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_04]: There you are.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Anything else we need to ask you?

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to...

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to ask Sally if there's any sort of memorable

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: journeys that you used to take.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you said about school runs and stuff, but were there

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: any kind of longer trips away maybe on holiday or...

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean the driving down in the minivan, we used to have a

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: caravan down on the South coast in Chichester.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So going down in the minivan on that mattress was always

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: hilarious because we would just literally fall asleep and

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: those were always great journeys.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I used to love that.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We never did that many...

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We did a few kind of drive over and get the car ferry.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you used to do motorway service stations on the way?

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_04]: We had a chat about Little Chefs, didn't we, a while

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_04]: back, which was quite good.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I loved a Little Chef.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The funny thing was I used to get horrendously car sick

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: as a kid.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It's really funny.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I used to vomit everywhere.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I used to vomit on cars, planes.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I was only telling someone this yesterday that I was a

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: very good vomitter.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like...

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I was the same actually if it's any...

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We go.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And the hilarious thing is that I love planes these days

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm often in a plane.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I did used to get horrendously car sick.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you remember, I always used to say

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: to my mum, can't we get those things?

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: God knows whether they did anything.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember those things that used to trail down

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: the back of a car?

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That was supposed to stop.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Like anti-static strips or something where they were...

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_03]: My dad had them on his Alder and I can confirm sadly

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_03]: they didn't work.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: There's still a lot of vomit here.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Chris used to think, yeah, how does this stop me

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: vomiting because we've got two things trailing along

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the back.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, various times of getting to a little chef

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: at a service station and then vomiting immediately.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Putting everyone else off their food.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember from school trips it was kind of always

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_04]: a bit of a black art where you sat in the coach.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_04]: If you sat right at the back potentially you were

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_04]: going to be more sick.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Or if you sat over the wheel everyone thought

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_04]: you were going to be sick.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You had to sort of pick where you sat.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But you definitely wanted to be at the back though,

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: didn't you?

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't want to be...

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't very cool to be near the front.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You did but you didn't want to be sick either.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Uncool to be sick and uncool to be at the front.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was a hard choice to make, you know,

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: reputationally.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember when I was about 12, I think I was 12,

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'd just joined that local football team and we

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_03]: were playing our first game of the season.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I knew a lot of the guys from previous school.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We'd just started secondary school and we were

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: playing away somewhere.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I played the game, I was obviously quite nervous

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_03]: but on the way home it was quite a far away game.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was like 40 minutes in the car which

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_03]: to me was sick potential basically.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So then yeah on the way home I remember sitting

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: in the back of this guy's Rover, one of the

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_03]: dads of one of the other players, the three of

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_03]: us along the back and yeah I remember just sort

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_03]: of thinking, oh don't be sick, don't be sick.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And then obviously I ended up being sick and it

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: was literally...

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously we were crammed into the back of this

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_03]: car, it was everywhere, it was terrible.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I know, it felt so bad.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And then next day at school I remember seeing

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_03]: the guy whose dad, whose car it was and he's

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: like, oh my dad was out there until 9 o'clock

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: at night clean now.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry about that.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is a tough one isn't it?

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Romanting in someone else's car, that's really bad.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I never liked those Rovers though so every cloud.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Test of the friendship there.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm trying to think about any

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_01]: of the road trips. I love a road trip, I've

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: really, you know, I've done a few road trips in

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: the States. It's always fun, you know, driving

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: on the other side of the road. It always

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: puzzles me that whole kind of, you can turn

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: right on a red light and I do, it always

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: makes me laugh in America. They don't do

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: roundabouts in America.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They call them traffic circles.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so hilarious.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's like one in Los Angeles

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and people freak out.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, what do we do?

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: How does this work?

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they're used to the four way stop.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if you've ever seen the Steve

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Martin movie LA Story, which makes me die.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: There are so many good card jokes in that

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: where he jumps in his car to literally drive

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: to his next door neighbour's house because

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: no one in LA walks anywhere.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's that brilliant moment at the

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: four way stop where they all arrive at the

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: same moment and then they all go and smash

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: into each other.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The four way stop will forever puzzle me.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing of like who got here first

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and their fear of roundabouts or traffic

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: circles is always hilarious.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Toby totally freaked them out.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He spent some time in LA a while back

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and he decided to buy a bike for the

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: duration that he was there just to get

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: some exercise in and cycle because

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: everything's so far away.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think cyclists going around the one

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: traffic circle in Los Angeles really

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of tipped everyone over.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They were like, this is terrifying.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They'd never seen anything quite like it.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just second nature to us.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a bit of a rarity isn't it, cyclists

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: in the States. I can't think of that being a...

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. No, no, no.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: People were very confused.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They were very confused. What's that?

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I tend to break every law as well when I drive in America

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: because you just do stuff that you do here

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: like throw a quick U-turn in the middle of the road

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and then you realise that you're really never allowed

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: to do that or see a parking space

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: on the other side and just dive over the other side

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: of the road and then you're parked facing all your

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: incoming traffic and that is an absolute

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_03]: no-no. They're like... They're in a whole heap of trouble.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Terrible. Yeah. What on earth are you thinking?

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah,

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: there's all manner of hilarity driving

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: in the States. I quite enjoy it. Even as

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_03]: a pedestrian, the jaywalking thing

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_03]: is just... Oh yeah. Because I remember going there

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_03]: as a kid and it's like, oh we need to cross over

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and dad will be like, well we've got to walk to that

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_03]: set of traffic lights which is like two kilometres

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_03]: down there or something.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. They don't just chuck themselves into the road

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: like we do here. We just sort of decide to walk

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: across anyway, don't we? Yeah.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I always remember the green man would be green

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_03]: for like five seconds or something

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_03]: and you have to cross six lanes of traffic

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: and not get squished. Yeah.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_04]: With your folks being in

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_04]: the airline industry,

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_04]: did you do kind of fly away holidays as children

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_04]: as well or was that when you were older

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_04]: and then did you have hire cars?

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So we had some hilarious trips

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: because airline industry, I think

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: really unless you were a pilot,

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: it doesn't pay very well. The whole point of being

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: there and then having a job in the airline

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: industry obviously for the love of flying

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: is the concessions. So we had this

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: access to travel but we never had any money

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: as you could probably tell by the type of cars

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I've told you that we had.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So we used to go everywhere

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: for a day. My dad used to say

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_01]: let's just go on a day trip somewhere

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: so I was forever. I went

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_01]: in half term one year

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: to Oslo for the day and

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we went to Zurich for the day

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and Brussels for the day and when

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: it was my 13th birthday, my dad had won

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: these two business class tickets

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: to anywhere in the world. Wow.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: My brother wasn't ever really that bothered about

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: going anywhere. Yeah. My

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: mum knew how much I love travel and

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_01]: he said to me, I'll take

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: you somewhere for your birthday, we've got business class

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_01]: tickets but we can't stay the night

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: we need to come back in the day. Where do you

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: want to go? And I was like, I want to go

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_01]: to New York. And he was like, no, no, no.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to pick like Aberdeen or

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Dublin or Brussels

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: or Paris or somewhere within

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: a 30 minute radius.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I want to go to New York, I want to go to

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: New York. I really, really want to go to New York and I just

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: did this campaign. I went on and on and on about

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: New York. And eventually he said

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: to me, alright, we could

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: go on the first flight out and the last flight back and

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: we had six hours.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, pick two things you

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: want to do. And I was like, I want to go up the twin

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_01]: towers and I want to go ice skating

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: at Rockefeller. And we did both of those

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and then had to run back to JFK. But

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the funniest thing was, my birthday is actually in April

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: but we had to use the tickets before the end of March

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and they were having like

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: New York has proper seasons and

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: the winter was kind of ongoing.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And here it was quite a sort of

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: mild spring day so we'd sort of

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: gone to Heathrow, hopped on this plane

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: for the day in our sort of

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: spring wear, like a light flimsy

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: jacket. And as we were coming into

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: land into JFK, I can remember the pilot

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_01]: saying it was something like minus ten and

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: looking out the window and the Hudson

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: was like a big block of ice.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: We were like, oh I think we're massively

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: underdressed for this day in New York.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And so my dad was like, don't worry.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: As we came to our arrivals, because of course we had no

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: luggage, we went straight to the British

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Airways desk and my dad said, well I'm just here with

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: my daughter for six hours, can we borrow some jackets?

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So we went round in high visibility

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: baggage handler coats with

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: BA branding on them.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: There's got to be some good photos of us somewhere

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: in these high vis jackets.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I was only 13 as well so I was probably wearing this huge

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: jacket that didn't fit.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah, in terms of hiring cars, yes.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember actually we

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: went to Canada when I was about nine

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and we hired a Pontiac

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was just, maybe this is what started my love

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: of American cars. Americans

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_01]: just go big don't they? It's so fun.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, this Pontiac

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: was just

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: it was like something out of the movies, you know what I mean?

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I couldn't believe it.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially given that we had a minivan

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and a 2CV.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, oh my god, we could live in here

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it's so huge.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, a lot of fun

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_01]: trips going away

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and hiring cars and

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, always great.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Fantastic. We have asked, we've asked a few people

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_04]: this actually. Any suggestions

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_04]: for other people we should speak to

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_04]: on a similar sort of topic?

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, I mean, do you ever

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_01]: get famous people in?

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Pop gear style. Well, it's

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of a circle of influence and

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_04]: friendship really so. Okay.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think your mother would be a good shout with all the taxi

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: driver stories.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom, oh my

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_01]: god, Angie would be

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_01]: brilliant. You should totally. Would she face

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_03]: the screen or would she face the wall and just have to

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: look at the back of her head as she's

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I can get her

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: to figure out on Zoom and that's fine.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You should totally get my mum on it. She would

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: love it. Love it, love it. Yeah.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: If Edna was still here I'd say get Edna on

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: because she used to

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: drive an ambulance in the war. She was an

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: ambulance driver and had many

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: a great story about that but my mum would

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: be a great shout. Yeah, for sure.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we've had, yeah, a couple of sort of mildly famous

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_04]: people off TV on but

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_04]: that's the goal. We sort of set

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_04]: out when we started didn't we? John wants to get

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Ian Wright on and

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, why? Why Ian Wright?

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Just a bit of a hero really. I'm an Arsenal fan

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: so growing up he was kind of like

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_03]: always either on my screen

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_03]: or in a magazine or

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah, he brought me a lot of joy

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and he just seems like a good egg really. Every time I

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_03]: see him he seems like a good guy so

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah. Brilliant.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. Well, I mean

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: if I know anyone who knows Ian Wright I'll

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: put out some feelers for you.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Larry's a busy guy. He's always doing lots

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_03]: of things isn't he? You know.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he's got time. Maybe.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Has your mum been on Andy?

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Not yet, no. No? So

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, I didn't want it to become too

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_04]: especially not early on where it just becomes

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_04]: me interviewing my family. Yeah

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah. It almost feels a bit of a sad

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_04]: cause like I've got no one to interview.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But kind of as we

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_04]: sort of grow and reaching out and

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah speaking to people then

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_04]: definitely yeah I think

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_04]: bringing kind of the family like obviously we're speaking

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_04]: to yourself and you've got an interest in cars

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's nice because I do have

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_04]: a bit of a memory of some of those vehicles

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and when we talk to people and you do kind of

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_04]: know those people it's great. Yeah.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually just when you chat to someone and they

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of yeah they unlock a few memories and actually

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_04]: get a bit of a sort of a window into how their

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_04]: childhood was. It's really, it's quite nice.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh I love that. I mean if we were still

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: speaking I'd say get Bezard on the crazy

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Iranian because his

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: his choice in vehicles was always

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: hilarious. I mean he would go

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: from, I think you can always tell the

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: sort of current financial state of

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_01]: the business by what he was driving cause

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: it kind of went from a

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean he used to have Porsches all the time

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think he had

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_01]: a BMW Z3 at one point

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and then he kind of went sort of

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: rowdy and then

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember him getting a smart car

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: that was a lift hand drive Japanese

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: smart car but he always had barriers

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: he had to like get out and walk around

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_01]: to get the ticket out of the barrier. It's like

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: are we in a bad place this company at the moment?

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Like this feels bad.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he was on a moped for a while. I was like oh god

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's time to leave. Oh wow. Yeah I think

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe we haven't got any money left at all.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah watch out

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_04]: for those pointers at your work.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely, absolutely.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or at least you got

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_04]: married when you did. It could have been

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: dreadful. I know, absolutely

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_01]: at the right time right? At least

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it wasn't in the moped era.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Bit of a step

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_03]: down from the Fiat 500. Could have been

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_03]: like what a synchronic couldn't he going to the wedding?

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh good.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I must see you soon Andy. You must have

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_01]: a test drive in the

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Mustang. Yeah sounds like, yeah we'll have to

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You should come and see us, bring the girls.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah definitely.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Well yeah thank you very much for

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_04]: taking some time out. Lovely to see you and catch

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_04]: up. Oh it's so good to see you.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Great to hear your stories and yeah

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_04]: obviously about your wonderful parents as well so

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Aww. Well thank you. Lovely

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: to see you. Lovely to meet you John. Nice to meet

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you too yeah. Yeah if you want Angie

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and Andrew's taxis on the

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: podcast let me know and I'll line

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_04]: her up. Yeah, yeah how about we work with our agent?

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I will. You know she's

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: quite expensive but you know it's worth it.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_04]: She might feel sorry for us, do a cheap

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: fare.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Or just do a bunk. Yeah.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Fantastic. Well um

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah thank you very much for joining us. Oh

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: brilliant. Well so my love to everyone,

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: love to Connie and the girls. Yeah look after yourself.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll speak to you soon. Bye Sally. Take care.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. Cheers Sally. Bye bye.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_04]: There we go.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Some interesting stories there for us.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a great one yeah some really good

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_03]: stories in there. But particularly

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_03]: like the anti-theft device

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_03]: of a glove over the key

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_03]: in the ignition of the car overnight.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That seems yeah from the same generation

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_04]: that brought your pledge. Yeah.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think there's any correlation between those

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_03]: people that leave gloves on railings

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes when you're sort of walking along in a

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_03]: park and just see. That's almost the

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_04]: sign of an abandoned D lock on a lamp post.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it won't be needing this.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe it's for the thief to put

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_04]: on as they turn the key.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't leave fingerprints.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like a sort of home alone type thing isn't

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_03]: it? So you could take the glove off but

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_03]: could be like red heart or

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_04]: something or. Yeah Macaulay Calkland

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_04]: booby trap.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That's excellent. And a wedding

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_03]: gift of unparalleled proportion.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah that's pretty amazing.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know that story and

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I was feeling a little bit sad that she

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_04]: had to get rid of the portion and she got given another one.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Wonderful. Yeah.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah I guess hats off to her for giving

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_04]: the other one back when the guys started asking

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_04]: questions. That's probably the easiest thing to do

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: isn't it? Cut ties and go here you go

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_03]: if this is a problem. Yeah.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a mark of the man that when she said

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: do you want it back and he said yes.

[00:41:01] That's

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_03]: most people probably say

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_03]: no no that's your gift.

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a gift a gift.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Taking your wedding ring back off your wife isn't it?

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah that's quite the gift.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But some good cars in there

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_03]: two CVs and. Yeah two CVs

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_04]: have come up a few times haven't they? Mini van with a bed in the

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_03]: back. Yeah I can vouch for

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_03]: how small they are having seen one very recently

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_03]: on our car tennis series.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah a small thing aren't they?

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_04]: When a car comes up to your waist.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah exactly yeah it's like a sort of box

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_03]: like a small box

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_03]: just put in the shed.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it must be

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: obviously I drive a fairly low down car

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: but to drive that kind of small

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and slow as well I suppose in

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_04]: this day and age.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It must be fairly kind of nerve wracking really

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_04]: with lorries whizzing around you and all the rest.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Got a bit yeah

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_03]: even if you came up against a big

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: SUV you'd be pretty

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_03]: minuscule wouldn't you? Yeah I guess

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_04]: with sort of 20 mile an hour limits or whatever

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_04]: in cities these days

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe there's still a place for them.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I've still got an itch with minis

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_03]: but yeah yeah now you've said

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_03]: before it's unfinished

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_03]: business. We'll see.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah waiting on those

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_04]: lottery wins. I think they must

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_04]: have sent the details to the wrong house.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I think so yeah got the wrong postcode.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah so yeah communication

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: issue they selected me the wrong

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_04]: numbers or something along those lines. It's an innocent

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: mistake. Yeah yeah happens to the

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_04]: best isn't it? Indeed.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah good episode I enjoyed that and

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_04]: nice to have someone from the family on who's

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_04]: old enough to vote. Yeah

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_03]: exactly yeah and nice to have

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_04]: a non-male guest as

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_04]: well. Indeed yes.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Bit of representation so

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah it's not just a nerdy car

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_04]: podcast is it as we've kind of said before.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Not at all yeah. Yeah it is for everyone and

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_04]: regardless of whether we're just talking about kind of

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: the scent of the air freshener and what colour the paint was

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_04]: or how many cubic

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_04]: centimetres the engine was or what

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_04]: grade oil you preferred to use in it.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: We're here for it all. No it's nice to do that

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: particularly for me as well because I'm not

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_03]: one of these people that can talk about grades of oil

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_03]: like yourself so

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_03]: suits me fine when it's not

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03]: too sort of petrol heading.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Indeed indeed.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_04]: What else do we need to mention? A trip to New York

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_04]: for six hours. Yeah.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing to do with cars but great story.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And wearing BA clothing

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_04]: when you get there. Yeah yeah.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I think her mum and her dad worked for BA

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_04]: in some way shape or form.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah wonderful.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks to

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_04]: someone bought us a coffee the other day.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Lovely. So thank you to him.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you Dom. That was terribly good of him and we've had

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_04]: a couple of reviews

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_04]: which was also wonderful. Good ones as well.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Good reviews yeah we prefer the good

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_04]: ones but any will do.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And what did we have?

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_04]: We had our busiest ever day on the podcast

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_04]: with the other day. Yeah. 110

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_04]: downloads in a day. Yeah. Which is

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_04]: marvellous. Superb. Cool.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Okey dokey I'll leave you to it.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much John. Alright mate. It's been a pleasure.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah we'll wrap it up and roll the credits.

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