Barney Dines - Heritage Parts Centre: Live at the NEC Classic Car Show. Mk1 Escort Mexico to France, Nan in Sportscars, Teacher in a Cossie! S7E5

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And now it's time to take a reverse gear, dare I say. Back into the past. We're going all nostalgic with my dad's car. Well, thank you very much. Good morning, everyone, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the NEC.

Uh I'm Andy, this is John. Today we're joined by Barney. So hello, Barney. Hello. So I'll tell you a quick little bit about what we do. Um basically we ask people what their earliest car memories are. Uh we delve back into history, typically kind of childhood, what got you into this, and yeah, maybe whether any of the cars your parents or other people in your childhood drove have changed or kind of helped you uh purchase particular cars in later life. So um yeah, thank you very much for those people who are here, those people who are listening. Um so for the benefit of the tape, we're joined by Barney Dines. Hi guys. Hi. Thanks for coming. I've known Barney 18 years, he's actually my boss. Barney is the CEO of Heritage Parts Centre. So do you want to give us a quick quick bio?

Yeah. I started playing around with Volkswagens when I was fifteen. Okay. And uh hobby became a job, and now I run a company that sells spare parts for a classic VW Portion Lab Rover. Okay, so um yeah, without further ado then, Barney, what's your earliest car memory? Earliest car memory was washing my dad's Mark I escort Mexico when I was about probably about four or five years old. Okay. There's a photo to prove it that my mum often gets out at Christmas and birthdays. A gritty sponge and a bucket. Gritty sponge, yeah, sort of rubbing grit over the paintwork. You'd get put away for that now, couldn't you on a Mexico?

I think definitely. Please could come.

Yeah.

So what colour was it? It was yellow. The sponge.

Yeah, it was yellow. Yellow chrome bumpers. Uh I think it had a black interior, black vinyl interior. I remember sticking to it in the hot summers.

Yeah, yeah.

And and who was in the car with you? Uh I'm I'm the eldest brother, so my little brother wasn't sort of walking by the time that one went. Uh so just me, my mum, and my dad. We used to go off on uh summer holidays in it down to the south of France and uh breakdown pretty much every year. So was the Mexico around for a long time, Barney? Probably a couple of years, I I remember it, and then then it was upgraded to a Mark II or downgraded to a Mark II. But that wasn't a Mexico, it was uh just a standard popular plusser, if I remember rightly. Brown velour interior.

So you grew up in Essex, was Ford the obvious choice? Was that kind of how you got there, do you reckon?

Yeah, definitely, yeah. I mean my my dad's other car, my dad's work car was a Mark I Granada estate, which at the time to me seemed huge. Great big white estate car with a sort of tan value interior, and it had a like a one of the very early car phones. It was a big um literally a handset in the middle console on a on a wire that you just picked up and connected you to the the operator, and they said, Who do you want to talk to? And you'd sort of tell them I want car number six four seven or Romford 2183 or something.

And that was a massive bicep picking that huge brick up.

And a huge bill, apparently.

Really?

So yeah, I don't think my dad ever used it because it was so expensive. He just used to sort of pretend he was on it so he looked cool.

That that was a company car, um, so his personal cars. Do you remember where he was sourcing those from at all?

Uh I I don't know. No. As a youth, he he had uh Ford Anglias, and then obviously when I came along.

Yeah. So fair to say that your dad's love of cars probably got you into the same car.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I've I've always been into cars as uh even as a kid, you know, I had loads of matchbox as as we all did. Um what really got me into my my Volkswagen love was watching a bug jum video when I was about 15 at school and sort of falling in love with the whole kind of the lifestyle behind it, all the the racing and the yeah that that particular episode had um one of our colleagues, Andy Ben Pasco, in as a as a little kid. Okay, uh winning the Rad Shorts competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't obviously know Ben at that time, so yeah.

Small world, isn't it?

Yeah.

So the uh the Mexico parts on the drive or the in the garage or we had a driveway, yeah.

I remember it being on the drive, and uh we didn't have a garage at that time. Yeah, but it was it was a daily car back then. We're talking 1979, 1980 maybe. So it was a fairly new car.

Yeah, okay.

And did your mum drive and your dad? Or just okay. Was your dad hands-on with the sort of mechanics of the car?

Yeah, yeah, my dad would fix bits and bobs. Um as I said, when we went away, we'd go down to the south of France in in the car every year, and getting on and off the ferry pretty much every year without fail, it'd pull the exhaust off or it would scrape, and then the exhaust would fall off somewhere in the middle of rural France, and my dad would be under there with a couple of Jubilee clips and a bit of a tin can trying to put the thing back on and get us on our way, or sort of muddling by with broken French trying to talk to a local garage and tell them to fix the car. And um, did you have music on? What were you listening to? I don't really remember the music situation. I I would imagine it was pretty ropey. It'd be some dodgy AM radio crackling away. I do remember a bit a bit later on when when my brother and I were in the back, piled up, because we used to go camping, so it was all the sleeping bags and all the camping equipment in the car, and we'd be sat on top of it a good sort of foot or two above the the back seat. Okay, squabbling. Yeah. And uh my mum would sort of build a barrier between the two of us to stop us from arguing.

Is your mother just sort of chief navigator and snack, head of snacks and there?

Yeah, there were a lot of um fraught navigational issues around Paris. I distinctly remember getting stuck on the periphery and uh sort of missing several turnings, and my mum, my mum has a uh a fairly uh let's say uh in just in case she listens, I don't want to be rude. Uh she she can make her point known. We're not gonna bring her out from around the back of the surprise. Hello mum.

France is quite a popular choice, isn't it? And it's crazy to think like these days, if someone said you want to drive to Paris in a Mark I escort, you just laugh at them. Yeah.

Yeah, we we did um a family holiday down to the south west of France last year in a a very modern Bassat, and that that was hard work with two young kids. So you know, hats off to mum and dad for doing it in a Mark I escort. Oh, quite scared of it.

We're doing a trip to Disney Paris at Christmas. I'm slightly nervous now, having uh heard that it's even bad in a modern vehicle, so yeah.

No, well there were no no iPads in those days either, so we we had to argue to pass the time.

I spy and arguing.

So did your dad deviate away from Ford's at any point, or was he still quite loyal?

Uh he did have a Vauxhall Cavalier, I believe. That was that was the next car after the after the Mark II. Yeah. Um Black C D I, I believe. So top of the range, it was very luxurious. Yeah, much quicker, much bigger.

Quite a nice, comfy seat on those vehicles. Yeah, we've we've covered that a few times, haven't we? In previous. Yeah, my dad had a cavalier.

Yeah, yeah, I know. I I remember having some some good good weekends and that with again. We used to go down to France in that, and um I remember my first lad's holiday with my my dad, my brother, my dad's best friend, and uh his his son down to run to the sun. I think I was probably about 14, maybe. Sort of it, it was sort of early days of run to the sun, maybe the first or second one. And uh yeah, we went down in the cavalier. I challenged my dad to a a drinking competition and lost. Remember throwing up out of the window of the cavalier. Oh god.

So what year was the cavalier 21 eating lunch right now?

Yeah, it was uh it was a B Reg, so what's that?

80 Mark II, I think.

Mark 4, Mark II, yeah. Yeah B Reg, yeah, black, black, grey velour. Yeah, yeah, nice car, good good sound system in that. Okay, tape tape deck. Don't think it had C D player, not sure, can't remember.

So, do you remember um kids from school with interesting cars or neighbours?

Yeah, my my next door neighbour when I was growing up, um, he had a it was a Yugo. Oh, yeah, yeah, which was really unusual.

Um always reminds me of the third diehard film. Don't know if you've ever seen that before. Yeah, it was quite a good scene with Hugo in. Right, okay.

A bit niche there, maybe, but and uh yeah, guy up the road was into Skoders as well. He had a couple of old Skoda Estelles, which he got the absolute Mickey taking that up in for uh half of the course, wasn't it? Yeah, but yeah, he had a couple and he kind of used to sort of take one apart to fix the other one and then take the other one apart to fix that one again, and it's a constant sort of swapping of uh parts. And my my dad's sort of running friend, my dad was into marathon running. Oh, okay. His sort of main running friend that lived opposite us, his son had a 9-11 targa. Oh, nice. So it was a I think it was an impact bumper model, so it would have been sort of early 80s, orange targa, really nice condition. Yeah, so that was quite fun. So I was wanted to see that every day and got a few rides in that.

Yeah. So apart from bug jam on telly, no VWs in the street that kind of it it was the lifestyle rather than the car.

There was yeah, there was there was one actually a couple of doors up. I can't think of the family's name now, but um, it was I think they'd had it from new, and uh I remember sort of seeing it every day, and then it went off and they had it restored. Okay. So I I can't remember, it was a 70s flat screen Beetle.

Yeah.

So I always kind of thought, oh, that's a nice car, I like I like that. So it was always kind of there. Uh run to the sun was the the big one for me. That that really kind of like piqued my interest. Um, and then sort of around that time, a lot of my school friends kind of got into Volkswagens as well. So one of my best friends at school, guy called Daryl, who's uh still sort of floating around and get to speak to him every now and again, and another guy, Bradley, they were into the VW scene, and there was a quite a big VW scene around Brentwood. Yeah, um the the sort of cow look scene back in the early 90s really kind of was was big in in Essex. So there was Richie King in Carmen Connection in South End, um, there's German Carr Company, the Big Boys Toys in Thurrock that I later went to work for. Yeah, so there was a lot of interest around the Bug Jam video got a lot of traction amongst me and my friends. So yeah, we we all bought tassy old Beatles and lowered them as much as we could and didn't do any of the sensible mechanical repairs. You know, my my first thing I wanted to put in was a set of one-piece windows.

And how how did you learn kind of the trade, so to speak, like on the tools? Did your dad help you with mechanics or yeah, dad helped a bit?

Um, Paul, who's my now business partner, uh Paul Howard, he he worked on a farm, so he was very handy. Okay. Um we were sort of friends from school from about 10 years old. And that's actually where we worked on our cars. The farm that Paul works at, we we did a bit of extra work for free, like the the the rubbish jobs that people didn't really want to do, like cleaning out the grain stores and things like that when it was 30 degrees outside. Um to to pay for sort of our rent to keep the cars there and and work on them there. So okay. So Paul's always been pretty handy. Yeah, my my my dad's fairly mechanically minded. Um my mum used to work at a technical college and they had a mechanical engineering department there, so sometimes I sort of take some bits in there and get some help there as well.

That's cool, yeah, yeah. Any cars from well, not just your dad's history, but anyone you've known that you particularly like to take a ride in again that maybe drifted away.

Oh, that's a good one.

And who would you travel with, if anyone?

I so when I actually went to Run to the Sun the first time under my own sting, um, I didn't make it back, sadly. Under my own power, the AA's still there on the side. Um I'd I'd like to kind of relive that. That was that was a really fantastic trip. There we were all 17, 18 in cobbled together Volkswagens. Most of them didn't make it back without some sort of repair, and we used to swap around cars, so we'd sort of take it in turns to drive each other's cars or go as passengers. We all had CB radios because mobile phones weren't weren't a big thing then, yeah. Um, and there was a friend of mine, Paul Murphy, who used to sort of buy a Beetle and really toss it over. I mean, just quick paint job. For some reason, he had a bit of an obsession with stripping them out and putting cages and bucket seats in. Yeah. Um, and would always put a stinger on it, and it would be it would be the most fun car because it would be so loud and so ridiculous, and he'd just blast past everybody with the the noisiest exhaust you could imagine, and then um drop back, let everybody pass him again, and then do it again. And this would go on for like sort of 500 miles. Uh so yeah, that would be good. It'd be good to meet up with Paul. He lives in Australia now, so they don't want to see him, but it'd be good to meet up with Paul and and blast about again, yeah. So maybe the uh maybe the heritage race beetle could be that car.

Yeah, silly exhaust.

We um on one on that first trip as well, a friend of mine um jumped in with Paul and he he ended up in one of the T1 splits, which broke down. And uh they all ended up I think it was eight people in it, ended up having to sleep in the the split that night because they broke down in the middle of Cornwall. The AA or RAC couldn't get out to them. So he ended up in a a survival bag underneath the camper for the night. Next morning we woke up, we'd all got to the campsite and uh turned on the CV. There they were. Is anybody there? Please come and help us. SOS. We did we did get to them, we we got to them, we we got them towed back, and we we ended up taking the engine out and changing the clutch on the campsite.

Okay.

Which was uh which was fun.

The recovery service must have been sort of dreading every time your number came up. Oh nothing.

My my my gran used to buy my AA membership for me for my birthday every year, and uh she one year she got a uh a letter from them telling them that uh that I should perhaps consider servicing my car. You mentioned your grand did your grandparents drive? Do you remember what they were driving? They did actually, yeah. Funny enough, uh I didn't think of it earlier. My my my granddad, the first car I remember him having was actually a type three uh variant. Okay. So it was it was yellow. He had a couple, he had a yellow one and a white one. I couldn't tell you what they were. I think they were 1500 or 1600 type three variants. Um he then went on to Volvo's, which we won't talk about. But my my gran also, she was really into English sports cars, so she had Spitfires. So she had a couple of Spitfires, she had uh I think she had a TR6, something like that. Um she actually had her name down on the waiting list from Morgan for a very, very long time. Uh and sadly, by the time her name came up, she was too old to be able to get in and out of it. So she went went to do the test drive and she couldn't get in and out of it, so she had to give it up. Yeah, I think she was on the list for 20 years. Really?

Oh well, that was quite something, I guess. You go back that time kind of being a female into cars and especially into sports cars as well.

Yeah, must have been via very male-dominated. Yeah, she was a bit of a force of nature, my grand. She was um she was driving till she was 92. Well, um, she shouldn't have been. They did take her licence away because she hit someone at a uh at a crossing, which is uh fortunately they weren't hurt, they just sort of bumped into the she claimed she couldn't see them. She started breaking at 90. It took her two years to come to a halt. Um yeah, she used to drive from Essex up to Suffolk every weekend until she was oh wow, until she was pretty much 90. That's um that's something, isn't it?

So yeah, if we go back to schools, you remember teachers with cars? There's normally a teacher with a cool car or a complete.

Uh there was, I can't remember his name. There was a couple actually. There was one guy who had um uh a Sierra Cosworth. Oh, cool. So he That's good on a teacher's wage, isn't it? Yeah, somebody's he was he was some sort of engineering teacher or something, and he he did some I don't know if he had a side hustle with with Ford. Bank robbery, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I I I I think he had a RS500, like you know, the teledop with a big with the big whale, and then he had a s a sapphire. Yeah. Um yeah, yeah, remember that. King of the car park, yeah, if you were driving that. One uh one of the six foremans had a had a Beatle. Yeah.

Okay.

I've got a vague memory that he's moved away as well. So all these people running away from me.

So John kind of touched on it. Are there any of those cars that you kind of think I'd really fancy one of those? Obviously, yeah, we kind of dabble with Volkswagen. I dabble more than dabble during the day, but would you want like a Marijuana Mexico or uh Yeah, maybe.

I I think I'd rather have the Cosworth. Yeah, yeah, you like going fast, don't you? Yeah, I saw I saw a really nice um RS500 the other day. I was on the M25, it was absolutely mint, yeah, and uh had clear glass on the windows, which was really weird because they've got quite big windows on the the Sierra because we didn't kind of see inside and everything that was going on. Anything in the auction here that's caught your eye? Ooh, the sort of pages sort of one through to sort of 700, really. Uh there's a there's a Ferrari, was it 355? I think it was. 355. Funny enough. Red Red Ferrari. Yeah, I always fancied a 355 sort of growing up. You know, had a Tester Rossa poster on my wall was as a kid growing up, and then the 355 came out. I was like, oh yeah, that's that's a real car. But yeah, they're quite a lot of money now, aren't they? They're sort of 100k mark.

Free mortgage job.

Yeah, I I've but I've got a Porsche 997, and when I bought that, I was I was hankering after uh the the 350, but they were like 40 grand and the the Porsche was sort of 20. Yeah. So but yeah, they've they've not stayed sort of quite in the same price bracket. The Porsche is still about 2530 and the Ferrari's sort of north of 100 now.

Yeah, the servicing's probably in your favour though, I imagine.

Yeah, I would I would imagine so, yeah. Servicing, what's that? It's what we sell parts for, but wipe the filter and pop it back in again. Top the oil up.

So what else do we need to ask you? Any smoking enthusiasts?

Smoking. Smoking in the car? Everybody smoked back in the day in the car. Uh I yeah, I did used to smoke. Well, not necessarily yourself, generally as a passive.

My my parents didn't smoke, and my grandparents didn't either. Not in not within my top memory, anyway. Um, but yeah, I used to smoke, and all all my friends used to smoke, and we used to smoke in the car with the windows fully up. Paul's left-handed, so he's got this really annoying habit of like flicking ash all over the floor around the gear stick because he'd smoke with his left hand. And all and also he quite often flicked the cigarette out the window and it'd bounce back in into his lap and he'd never flick it off. I think a great thing about Beatles is what early Volksman's quarter lights are perfect for smoking.

Yeah, it's true. So that's the thing, isn't it? Those things.

I'd rather smoke the tyres these days.

Yeah, better for your health. It probably is better for your bank balance.

Yeah. Speaking of which, do you remember the uh the burnout? God, what was it? The uh Werthesay.

Yeah, oh yes. When we were in the uh Yeah, we went to Austria to a show called Werthese, which is just a mental show. They take over a whole town. Is that still going? No, they stopped it. They've moved, you know, they had the big concrete gulf. Yeah. They moved that to Wolfsburg, I think.

Oh right, okay.

But yeah, you drive down these streets and it's literally like walking through a London Underground station. You have to sort of move sideways to walk down these streets. And yeah, we were in a hire car, weren't we? And everyone sort of they shout gummy, don't they? Or gummy.

Yeah, they they it was basically a burnout checkpoint. So what were we in? A Fiat five hundred or something? Sax Saxo or something something terrible. The cheapest hire car we could find. And yeah, we we we gave it a good go though. Yeah, wheel spins. They put a bit of water down for us, didn't they?

Yeah, apart from France, any memorable journeys. So we did you go to school in the car or

Yeah, we we went to a sort of small school, sort of in the sticks a bit out of where from where we lived in Breadwood. Yeah. And uh my mum and uh a mum up the road used to sort of take it in turns to do the school run. Yeah, yeah. So they had a big Volvo. What's the big square Volvo estates? 740s, maybe? Yeah, I think earlier than that. 240s. The one that's in ET. Oh, John, you're the film man. I don't know, I don't know that one, I'm afraid. To know. Big like the 740, but the big square one, the really big clunky one. Yeah, I remember that. I quite like a Volvo. Yeah. I remember getting a lift on rainy days in a Volvo. They had three, they had three kids, I think, or maybe even four. So they had a yeah, they had three. That's what I'm saying. Oh, with the old death seats on the back. That's right, yeah. Yeah. So we could get like sort of five or six of us in the back of that. And then we'd like all five or six of us would squeeze into the back of my mum's escort.

So there's the rear facing seats in the Volvo there. Yeah, I think they had them, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, first on the scene for an accident, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which um probably good that they don't do that anymore.

I think so. Yeah, we we used to go away on a lot of weekends as well, so we'd sort of go camping for weekends away, and that would always be in the in the car. We'd we had a trailer tent at one point, which would sort of drag behind the the car. I think that's probably the reason the exhaust used to get pulled off on the ferry because it was the pulls it down. The the nose weight, yeah. But yeah, yeah, we used to go a lot of lot of trips, a lot a lot of squabbling on the back seat.

Can you remember what your actual first car journey was? Do you think? Would it have been a holiday away?

No, I couldn't say. Probably on the way back from the hospital when I was born.

Do you so you're you're a parent? Do you think your kids will get into cars?

I'd like to think so. I've I've got a project car that's been sat in our warehouse for some time. It's uh a 550 spider kit car that was donated. And um I've got this uh I'll call it a dream because I I don't actually have a solid plan to back it up yet, to build it with my my kids. So my daughter, Margot, she's five and a half now. She's starting to get a bit interested in cars. Um Fred's only two, all he wants to do is smash them and push food into the upholstery. Um but yeah, I've I've recently moved house, so I'm planning to build a garage and uh build the car with with the kids. So hopefully that'll get it ingrained into their psyche and their their souls.

Is there anything in particular your parents did which you kind of think I really want to do that with my kids?

I think it's the holidays. Yeah. Getting away and on road trips and driving. So my partner, Katie, she's got a couple of T6 camper vans that she rents out, that's her her job. And we've done a few trips in them. We we did a a six-week trip around uh Spain and France when Margot was about 18 months, which was fantastic. Sort of stopping off at campsites, a bit of wild camping, a few Airbnbs to sort of break up and get a shower. Get a shower, yeah. You tend to get a bit of feral if you spend too much time in a camper van. And um yeah, we did a month the following year around Portugal. Uh that wasn't quite as successful because Margot could escape by that time. She worked out how to kind of unzip and get out of the and undo the doors and get out of the camper. So we spent a bit more time in Airbnbs that that trip. But yeah, I'd like to do that again, uh, probably in a bigger van once Fred's a bit older and uh a bit less of a handful. So I'd like to do a big US road trip as well. I think that would be a good one to do. Okay. But perhaps in a a car, uh hire or buy a muscle car and do some motel stops and see some of the sort of the big the big roads, you know, Route 66, Death Valley, all that kind of stuff.

What about taking your dad to the south of France in a Maron escort? Payback. Yeah. Surprise! You're in the back in shorts, Dad. Yeah, it's 40 degrees out there. No air toy. God, how did we survive without aircon? I can tell you, it's it's quite hard in the 944, it's like a sauna. No, and the heating's stuck on at the moment. Really? Wow, takes his top off. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, thank you very much for joining us, Barney. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. It's been uh yeah, good to good to have a chat. Hear a bit more of your story. Obviously, I know kind of business-wise what you get up to, but yeah, nice to hear the story behind it. So cool. Yeah, thank you very much to everyone for listening. Um, thank you very much to Barney from Heritage Parts Centre. Thank you, John. Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Addie. Thanks for watching. Thank you very much, guys. Have a good weekend. Cheers. So yeah, we will yeah, we'll wrap this one up. Um yeah, our thanks to Barney for joining us on the uh podcast stage at the NEC on Friday. Yeah, nice to have him with us. Yeah, obviously I've worked with him for 18 years, but a few stories in there which I wasn't aware of. So um, yeah, nice to hear those. Learn a little bit more about how he came to kind of get into the VW industry, but also um, yeah, what sort of set the fire for his car passion as well.

Yeah, it's nice to meet him. Obviously, you you know him well, but I've never met Barney before. And um yeah, you could instantly tell his passion for cars just because we had a bit of a stroll around the floor, didn't we, before we sat down together, and um yeah, he you could see his head was getting turned quite frequently by various points of interest. Yeah.

Like a dog with a street full of lampposts. There was a bit, yeah, it's like as someone holding a pack of sausages, and he was so um, yeah, some great stories in there, as we kind of mentioned the fact obviously Mark One Mexico, now very sought after. The fact that yeah, people wouldn't think twice back then about driving to the south of France in a car like that. Like that was I guess that was the modern car, wasn't it?

Yeah.

In the same way, if someone gave you a focus today and said you want to drive to France, and it'd be like, Well, okay, yeah, if you're paying the fuel.

Yeah. The thing that sort of really is mind-boggling for me is that the trips abroad in yesteryear you've got no means of contacting anyone or yeah, not not just a breakdown service, but anyone, you know, you it's gonna be a landline phone, isn't it, if you're lucky. Yeah, if you break down in the right place. And then you'd probably be relying on Fronglish to get a local to assist you.

Um yeah, it was quite, I guess, either yeah, naive or confident or whatever. Like yeah, it sounds like yeah, his dad was kind of handy enough with some spammers to sort of get him out of trouble. And yeah, back then the cars were simpler, weren't they? They were, I guess, more aimed at the DIY mechanic.

I suppose the long distance pre-journey vehicle check would have been a must as well back then. Yeah, you people would have done it, wouldn't they? Whereas now we're a little bit relaxed.

Yeah, I think we take I yeah, I certainly do sort of take things for granted. I have a quick walk around the car and just make sure nothing looks like it's wet or falling off or flat. And you're like, Yeah, that'll get me there.

Yeah. Uh almost at the point of I don't want to uncover anything, so you just feel your wallet switching.

Yeah, just jump in, off we go. I think it'll be all right. So, yeah, appreciative of him coming on with those stories and nice to do that with him, share that kind of experience as well. So, um, yeah, thank you to Barney and uh yeah, shout out, I suppose, with my work how onto Heritage Parts Centre. If you need VW parts, Land Rover parts or Porsche parts, then yeah, look us up and we'll uh do our best to help you. If I had one, I'd be all over it. Absolutely. Yeah, we don't do Picasso, I'm very classic Picasso specialists. Cool, thank you very much, John. No worries. Cool, cheers, mate. Uh, we'll uh wrap this up. Roll the credits.

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